ᐅ Floor Plan Design Single-Family House approximately 170 m² plus Attic as a Modern Brick-Faced Home
Created on: 3 Jan 2022 18:41
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Varrader
Good evening,
as previously silent readers, we (a young family with 2 children) are now slowly reaching the point where we would like to ask for help, critique, and ideas here.
We plan to build a single-family house in early 2023 and have already been working with an architect on the design for some time (so far commissioned for phases 1–4).
Here is the forum questionnaire filled out to the best of our knowledge:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 560m² (6027 sq ft), cul-de-sac location; parking spaces on the west side, wide pedestrian path on the east side, followed by a field (likely to become building land in 10–15 years)
Slope: none
Site occupancy index (Grundflächenzahl): 0.4
Floor area ratio (Geschossflächenzahl): 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: 3m (10 ft) all around
Border grouping: no
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full floors + attic
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style: modern brick construction with a simple building shape, no roof overhangs
Orientation: east-west
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 6.5m (21 ft 4 in), eaves height 10m (33 ft)
Additional requirements: hedge on the left side limited to 1m (3 ft) height, distance from first parking space to street at least 5m (16 ft)
Rooms:
Ground floor: living/dining area with open kitchen, small workspace “corner,” utility/storage room, guest toilet
First floor: 2 children’s rooms, master bedroom (preferably with a separate closet area, main room oriented to the east side of the house!), master bathroom with shower and bathtub, children’s bathroom with shower, small laundry room for washing machine and drying rack
Attic: third children’s room, storage room, hobby/office room
Homeowner requirements
Style, roof type, building type: single-family house with gable roof
Basement, floors: no basement, two full floors, attic to be used as living space
Number of people, age: 2 adults, 2 children (2 & 4 years old, another child planned)
Space needs on ground and first floor
Office: family use or home office? Home office space on the ground floor “close to the main activities,” additional more secluded space in the attic
Guests per year: none expected
Open or closed architecture: open living/dining area
Conservative or modern construction: modern construction
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen, kitchen island optional
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: no
Music/sound system wall: space for a large TV (about 1.9m (6 ft 3 in) wide expected, no additional equipment like speakers planned)
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage for one parking space plus storage for garden tools and equipment inside
Utility garden, greenhouse: decorative garden
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things are or are not chosen: Our current house has very small windows (timber-frame house), so we especially want more light in the house and attractive sightlines into the garden
House design
Who created the plan:
- Architect
What do you particularly like? Why?
The arrangement of the south-facing rooms on the ground floor and the small study, which can feel connected to the living area when the door is open.
We also like that the staircase on the ground floor faces the living areas rather than the front door.
What do you dislike? Why?
We want to enjoy as much of our garden as possible, so our basic desire was to build a narrow but long house. In this design, however, the current platform staircase is very large and feels overwhelming in the hallway area.
On the practical side, this staircase also allows direct access to the attic with the same stair flight.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: €500,000
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: €550,000
Preferred heating technology: geothermal heat pump
If you have to give up anything, which details/finishes
- can you do without:
- can you not do without:
Why is the design as it is now? For example:
Which wishes from the architect have been implemented: spatial plan discussed with the architect
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
We are worried about missing a good idea; we sometimes lack the creative input to find solutions that are a bit outside the box.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The arrangement of the staircase and the spatial feeling when entering the house are our main concerns. The staircase shapes the entire concept upstairs.
I’ve attached an alternative ground floor plan, where we try to reach the upper floor with an L-shaped staircase. However, this requires a second stair flight to access the attic, which also takes up space...
We look forward to your critique and suggestions!
Best regards,
Stefan
as previously silent readers, we (a young family with 2 children) are now slowly reaching the point where we would like to ask for help, critique, and ideas here.
We plan to build a single-family house in early 2023 and have already been working with an architect on the design for some time (so far commissioned for phases 1–4).
Here is the forum questionnaire filled out to the best of our knowledge:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 560m² (6027 sq ft), cul-de-sac location; parking spaces on the west side, wide pedestrian path on the east side, followed by a field (likely to become building land in 10–15 years)
Slope: none
Site occupancy index (Grundflächenzahl): 0.4
Floor area ratio (Geschossflächenzahl): 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: 3m (10 ft) all around
Border grouping: no
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full floors + attic
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style: modern brick construction with a simple building shape, no roof overhangs
Orientation: east-west
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height 6.5m (21 ft 4 in), eaves height 10m (33 ft)
Additional requirements: hedge on the left side limited to 1m (3 ft) height, distance from first parking space to street at least 5m (16 ft)
Rooms:
Ground floor: living/dining area with open kitchen, small workspace “corner,” utility/storage room, guest toilet
First floor: 2 children’s rooms, master bedroom (preferably with a separate closet area, main room oriented to the east side of the house!), master bathroom with shower and bathtub, children’s bathroom with shower, small laundry room for washing machine and drying rack
Attic: third children’s room, storage room, hobby/office room
Homeowner requirements
Style, roof type, building type: single-family house with gable roof
Basement, floors: no basement, two full floors, attic to be used as living space
Number of people, age: 2 adults, 2 children (2 & 4 years old, another child planned)
Space needs on ground and first floor
Office: family use or home office? Home office space on the ground floor “close to the main activities,” additional more secluded space in the attic
Guests per year: none expected
Open or closed architecture: open living/dining area
Conservative or modern construction: modern construction
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen, kitchen island optional
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: no
Music/sound system wall: space for a large TV (about 1.9m (6 ft 3 in) wide expected, no additional equipment like speakers planned)
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage for one parking space plus storage for garden tools and equipment inside
Utility garden, greenhouse: decorative garden
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things are or are not chosen: Our current house has very small windows (timber-frame house), so we especially want more light in the house and attractive sightlines into the garden
House design
Who created the plan:
- Architect
What do you particularly like? Why?
The arrangement of the south-facing rooms on the ground floor and the small study, which can feel connected to the living area when the door is open.
We also like that the staircase on the ground floor faces the living areas rather than the front door.
What do you dislike? Why?
We want to enjoy as much of our garden as possible, so our basic desire was to build a narrow but long house. In this design, however, the current platform staircase is very large and feels overwhelming in the hallway area.
On the practical side, this staircase also allows direct access to the attic with the same stair flight.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: €500,000
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: €550,000
Preferred heating technology: geothermal heat pump
If you have to give up anything, which details/finishes
- can you do without:
- can you not do without:
Why is the design as it is now? For example:
Which wishes from the architect have been implemented: spatial plan discussed with the architect
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad?
We are worried about missing a good idea; we sometimes lack the creative input to find solutions that are a bit outside the box.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The arrangement of the staircase and the spatial feeling when entering the house are our main concerns. The staircase shapes the entire concept upstairs.
I’ve attached an alternative ground floor plan, where we try to reach the upper floor with an L-shaped staircase. However, this requires a second stair flight to access the attic, which also takes up space...
We look forward to your critique and suggestions!
Best regards,
Stefan
Thanks regarding the table.
@askforafriend Picking up again on your comment from yesterday that we might be making things worse by trying to improve them.
Attached is the initial version from December overlaid with the latest designs – so pushing the sofa forward is off the table. Yes, it allows for a wider sofa, but it also stretches the seating area awkwardly. The sofa currently shown matches the one we have now and are very happy with in terms of size. I also think it’s a definite improvement that the corner is no longer positioned on the wall.
It’s different with the wardrobe and guest bathroom. We prefer the later version there. The previously heavily recessed entrance didn’t offer us any advantages besides weather protection, is likely much more expensive to build, and simply wastes space. We can imagine that the wardrobe around the corner could look very nice with a window in that “hallway,” and the guest bathroom is nicely tucked away there as well. This layout also has the advantage of increasing the size of the utility room.
The staircase remains an open question. A landing staircase with a depth of 2.8 m (9 ft) probably extends too far into the house (at best, you might gain about half the thickness of the exterior wall if you extend the landing into a full-width window). At the bottom, a length of 2.4 m (8 ft) has been marked as a worst-case scenario so far. This length would accommodate either a “three-flight staircase with two intermediate landings” (thanks to Raumpilot, now I know what it’s called 😀) or a nice half-turn staircase.
We have also removed the projection in the dining area for now to keep the building shape simpler. We need to get a better sense of what something like that would actually cost.
@askforafriend Picking up again on your comment from yesterday that we might be making things worse by trying to improve them.
Attached is the initial version from December overlaid with the latest designs – so pushing the sofa forward is off the table. Yes, it allows for a wider sofa, but it also stretches the seating area awkwardly. The sofa currently shown matches the one we have now and are very happy with in terms of size. I also think it’s a definite improvement that the corner is no longer positioned on the wall.
It’s different with the wardrobe and guest bathroom. We prefer the later version there. The previously heavily recessed entrance didn’t offer us any advantages besides weather protection, is likely much more expensive to build, and simply wastes space. We can imagine that the wardrobe around the corner could look very nice with a window in that “hallway,” and the guest bathroom is nicely tucked away there as well. This layout also has the advantage of increasing the size of the utility room.
The staircase remains an open question. A landing staircase with a depth of 2.8 m (9 ft) probably extends too far into the house (at best, you might gain about half the thickness of the exterior wall if you extend the landing into a full-width window). At the bottom, a length of 2.4 m (8 ft) has been marked as a worst-case scenario so far. This length would accommodate either a “three-flight staircase with two intermediate landings” (thanks to Raumpilot, now I know what it’s called 😀) or a nice half-turn staircase.
We have also removed the projection in the dining area for now to keep the building shape simpler. We need to get a better sense of what something like that would actually cost.
11ant schrieb:
No zigzag wall without a piano! – right, @chrisw81?I’m telling you, the zigzag wall will become a trend! It’s great to have created a unique design feature in the floor plan ;-)Now I was looking forward to a meaningful contribution after 2.5 weeks without any posts, and then something like this 😀
Since I’m here, current status: We are still waiting for a new update regarding the staircase in the attic. With the current staircase, it only works if somehow the head clearance is created through roof windows, but this would have to cover the full width of the staircase and also the full height.
So, 2 roof windows side by side and one above the other. No idea if that is common...
An alternative would be to go back to the original staircase with a landing without interruption.
This one is 2.8m (9.2 feet) deep, but narrower.
-> On the ground floor, the distance between the staircase and the living room door would then be only 1.3m (4.3 feet), which probably isn’t critical, right?
Upstairs we are torn between the current designs; each has its pros and cons. What bothers us most about the last design is the master bedroom: the door is positioned so that you walk straight towards the wardrobe, and the wall is directly adjacent to the children’s room.
Since I’m here, current status: We are still waiting for a new update regarding the staircase in the attic. With the current staircase, it only works if somehow the head clearance is created through roof windows, but this would have to cover the full width of the staircase and also the full height.
So, 2 roof windows side by side and one above the other. No idea if that is common...
An alternative would be to go back to the original staircase with a landing without interruption.
This one is 2.8m (9.2 feet) deep, but narrower.
-> On the ground floor, the distance between the staircase and the living room door would then be only 1.3m (4.3 feet), which probably isn’t critical, right?
Upstairs we are torn between the current designs; each has its pros and cons. What bothers us most about the last design is the master bedroom: the door is positioned so that you walk straight towards the wardrobe, and the wall is directly adjacent to the children’s room.
So, here is an updated progress report.
Not much has changed on the ground floor; the wall near the sofa is no longer recessed, as we prefer not to reveal our plans regarding the sofa placement.
New first floor (upper floor): On the first floor, we decided to eliminate the large hallway to gain more space for the children's bedrooms (the previous layout is still attached). The staircase is now a classic half-landing staircase without steps on the landing, which made the staircase narrower. This change allows for a children’s bedroom on the left side (the staircase location is also advantageous for the rooms on the top floor). The bathroom feels quite cramped as it is. The sauna should be a bit bigger (at least 2 x 1.5m (6.5 x 5 feet)) to avoid burning yourself on the glass.
Old first floor: We preferred the bathroom layout in the version with the more open hallway. It has the same floor area but a different layout.
I would appreciate your feedback on both first-floor designs, and any tips regarding the bathroom in the new version.
Not much has changed on the ground floor; the wall near the sofa is no longer recessed, as we prefer not to reveal our plans regarding the sofa placement.
New first floor (upper floor): On the first floor, we decided to eliminate the large hallway to gain more space for the children's bedrooms (the previous layout is still attached). The staircase is now a classic half-landing staircase without steps on the landing, which made the staircase narrower. This change allows for a children’s bedroom on the left side (the staircase location is also advantageous for the rooms on the top floor). The bathroom feels quite cramped as it is. The sauna should be a bit bigger (at least 2 x 1.5m (6.5 x 5 feet)) to avoid burning yourself on the glass.
Old first floor: We preferred the bathroom layout in the version with the more open hallway. It has the same floor area but a different layout.
I would appreciate your feedback on both first-floor designs, and any tips regarding the bathroom in the new version.
Varrader schrieb:
I would appreciate your opinions regarding the two upper floor layouts, especially any tips about the bathroom in the new version. I'm not a bathroom design expert, but regarding the upper floors, I can clearly say that I find the "OLD" layout much better executed.
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Hausprojekt3525 Apr 2022 22:54Just a quick question: Do you already know approximately how much extra the brick veneer will cost compared to a plaster facade in your case?
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