Hello dear members,
I discovered your lovely forum thanks to Google. Unfortunately, as is often the case, a problem has brought me here.
We are building an extension onto an existing semi-detached house in Baden-Württemberg.
We are building on a slab foundation. The friendly neighbor built his half with a basement.
We live 70 kilometers (about 43 miles) away from the construction site.
Therefore, with both of us working and having two children, we cannot be at the site all the time.
Yesterday morning, the workers began setting the formwork for the slab foundation.
When I arrived at the site yesterday, my friendly neighbor was already there waiting for me.
He yelled at me quite loudly and was extremely angry.
He said that the slab foundation towards his side was insulated only with Styrodur (extruded polystyrene).
One of the workers tried to explain that in addition to the Styrodur, a 4 cm (1.6 inch) soundproofing wall would be installed along the house.
Still, he did not calm down.
He just kept yelling. He said he would take pictures and that he would refuse to pay.
We have no intention of demanding any money from him.
I was really shocked!!!
Actually, he should be worried, since he built 3 cm (1.2 inches) of his house’s total length over our property boundary.
What is the legal situation here?
I told my husband about it.
He wanted to see a lawyer right away.
For me, maintaining peace with the neighbor is more important.
Please excuse my spelling mistakes and my lack of knowledge. I have two children and need to keep them happy at the same time.
Thank you,
Sandra
I discovered your lovely forum thanks to Google. Unfortunately, as is often the case, a problem has brought me here.
We are building an extension onto an existing semi-detached house in Baden-Württemberg.
We are building on a slab foundation. The friendly neighbor built his half with a basement.
We live 70 kilometers (about 43 miles) away from the construction site.
Therefore, with both of us working and having two children, we cannot be at the site all the time.
Yesterday morning, the workers began setting the formwork for the slab foundation.
When I arrived at the site yesterday, my friendly neighbor was already there waiting for me.
He yelled at me quite loudly and was extremely angry.
He said that the slab foundation towards his side was insulated only with Styrodur (extruded polystyrene).
One of the workers tried to explain that in addition to the Styrodur, a 4 cm (1.6 inch) soundproofing wall would be installed along the house.
Still, he did not calm down.
He just kept yelling. He said he would take pictures and that he would refuse to pay.
We have no intention of demanding any money from him.
I was really shocked!!!
Actually, he should be worried, since he built 3 cm (1.2 inches) of his house’s total length over our property boundary.
What is the legal situation here?
I told my husband about it.
He wanted to see a lawyer right away.
For me, maintaining peace with the neighbor is more important.
Please excuse my spelling mistakes and my lack of knowledge. I have two children and need to keep them happy at the same time.
Thank you,
Sandra
Sandrasix schrieb:
Above, sound insulation is created with 4cm (1.6 inches) of mineral wool. Hello Sandrasix,
I still don’t quite understand the problem.
There is a 4cm (1.6 inches) gap between the two buildings. Sound transmission through that is difficult to impossible. Whether that gap is filled with mineral wool, styrofoam, or even cow dung, it won’t improve or worsen the situation. Sound transfer would only occur if the two building parts were in contact. So just make sure the concrete does not form a resonance bridge. Then everything should be fine.
And you’ve got the “screamer” under control because of the shouting.
Steven
S
Sandrasix19 Apr 2020 15:30On the other topic here.
Yesterday, we had a long discussion at home about this issue.
My husband shares the opinion of @tumaa.
I think tumaa has good points.
In fact, tumaa could practically be my husband.
His argument is that if you replaced the troublesome children with people with black skin, it would be considered racism. With children, it is naturally accepted if you do not want to tolerate them.
I found that comparison so absurd that we really argued about it.
In the end, we agreed that you shouldn’t compare apples and oranges and that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
But people should treat each other with respect.
Yesterday, we had a long discussion at home about this issue.
My husband shares the opinion of @tumaa.
I think tumaa has good points.
In fact, tumaa could practically be my husband.
His argument is that if you replaced the troublesome children with people with black skin, it would be considered racism. With children, it is naturally accepted if you do not want to tolerate them.
I found that comparison so absurd that we really argued about it.
In the end, we agreed that you shouldn’t compare apples and oranges and that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
But people should treat each other with respect.
S
Sandrasix19 Apr 2020 15:38Steven schrieb:
Hello Sandrasix
I still don’t quite understand the problem.
There is a 4cm (1.6 inches) gap between the two buildings. Sound transmission across that space is difficult to impossible. Whether you put mineral wool, polystyrene foam, or even cow dung in the gap won’t improve or worsen the situation. Sound transmission would only occur if both parts of the building actually touch each other. So just be careful that the concrete doesn’t create a resonance bridge. Then everything should be fine.
And you have the “loudmouth” under control because of all the noise he makes.
Steven The issue is only about the gap between our floor slab and his basement wall.
There is Styrodur (extruded polystyrene) in that gap. Above the floor slab, the mineral wool starts.
Sandrasix schrieb:
His argument is basically that if you replace the annoying children with people with black skin, it would be racism. But when it comes to children, it would be natural not to tolerate them.I find that comparison just as absurd as you do.
Sandrasix schrieb:
His argument is that if you replace the annoying children with people with black skin, it would be racism. But when it comes to children, it’s considered normal if you don’t want to tolerate them.
I found the comparison so absurd that we ended up having a real argument.
The comparison is completely flawed. A comparable situation would be if people with black skin regularly played tag squealing in the garden and rattled down the cobblestone pavement on plastic-wheel tricycles.
You can argue much more reasonably about how much and what kinds of emissions of any kind a neighbor can tolerate and should put up with.
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