Hello dear members,
I discovered your lovely forum thanks to Google. Unfortunately, as is often the case, a problem has brought me here.
We are building an extension onto an existing semi-detached house in Baden-Württemberg.
We are building on a slab foundation. The friendly neighbor built his half with a basement.
We live 70 kilometers (about 43 miles) away from the construction site.
Therefore, with both of us working and having two children, we cannot be at the site all the time.
Yesterday morning, the workers began setting the formwork for the slab foundation.
When I arrived at the site yesterday, my friendly neighbor was already there waiting for me.
He yelled at me quite loudly and was extremely angry.
He said that the slab foundation towards his side was insulated only with Styrodur (extruded polystyrene).
One of the workers tried to explain that in addition to the Styrodur, a 4 cm (1.6 inch) soundproofing wall would be installed along the house.
Still, he did not calm down.
He just kept yelling. He said he would take pictures and that he would refuse to pay.
We have no intention of demanding any money from him.
I was really shocked!!!
Actually, he should be worried, since he built 3 cm (1.2 inches) of his house’s total length over our property boundary.
What is the legal situation here?
I told my husband about it.
He wanted to see a lawyer right away.
For me, maintaining peace with the neighbor is more important.
Please excuse my spelling mistakes and my lack of knowledge. I have two children and need to keep them happy at the same time.
Thank you,
Sandra
I discovered your lovely forum thanks to Google. Unfortunately, as is often the case, a problem has brought me here.
We are building an extension onto an existing semi-detached house in Baden-Württemberg.
We are building on a slab foundation. The friendly neighbor built his half with a basement.
We live 70 kilometers (about 43 miles) away from the construction site.
Therefore, with both of us working and having two children, we cannot be at the site all the time.
Yesterday morning, the workers began setting the formwork for the slab foundation.
When I arrived at the site yesterday, my friendly neighbor was already there waiting for me.
He yelled at me quite loudly and was extremely angry.
He said that the slab foundation towards his side was insulated only with Styrodur (extruded polystyrene).
One of the workers tried to explain that in addition to the Styrodur, a 4 cm (1.6 inch) soundproofing wall would be installed along the house.
Still, he did not calm down.
He just kept yelling. He said he would take pictures and that he would refuse to pay.
We have no intention of demanding any money from him.
I was really shocked!!!
Actually, he should be worried, since he built 3 cm (1.2 inches) of his house’s total length over our property boundary.
What is the legal situation here?
I told my husband about it.
He wanted to see a lawyer right away.
For me, maintaining peace with the neighbor is more important.
Please excuse my spelling mistakes and my lack of knowledge. I have two children and need to keep them happy at the same time.
Thank you,
Sandra
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HilfeHilfe18 Apr 2020 10:40kaho674 schrieb:
Is anyone still wondering why the older couple from #21 sold their house? So what? Are we supposed to feel sorry now? I’ve learned that children (hopefully) will pay for our retirement someday. If it gets too noisy in old age, you can always move into those stylish assisted living complexes filled with like-minded people.
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nordanney18 Apr 2020 11:04kaho674 schrieb:
Is anyone still surprised why the elderly couple from #21 sold their house?Nice to see that the old geezers were never children...Zaba12 schrieb:
Well, mine are annoying and noisy. That’s why we moved to a residential area where neighbors either have children or will have some. Our neighbors on the right are retired, but who else has a former pastor as a neighbor who has a personality as soft as a cotton ball? Joedreck schrieb:
They can run around inside the house without disturbing the neighbor below. Outside, they can play loudly because that’s simply how children are. Exceptions are Sundays and public holidays, as well as general quiet hours. haydee schrieb:
Mine is loud too. It feels like she gets louder with each week of daycare closure. Mine are very loud as well. The girl screams nonstop instead of talking. They don’t even approach each other but shout into the house when something happens. In my opinion, part of parenting is teaching a child that they are not the only person in the world. That you don’t have to scream all the time, and if you do, it should be inside. If childcare means just supervision without guidance, then I don't understand that. There seems to be no common ground here. Yesterday I was lying in the garden on the lounge chair with music playing loud enough that I couldn’t hear them. The little girl actually came several times to the garden fence and shouted something ending with “...neighbors.” She was practically screaming. I yelled back asking if I was too loud... after that, it was bearable. A neighbor without children once told me: playing children are calming, and I think she’s right. But there is a difference between playing and screaming. People responsible for childcare should be able to recognize that! I don’t think constant loudness is acceptable. Playing, yes; very loud, no. I can well imagine that @Joedreck, as a parent, might not see the difference—no offense—but when you reflect on others (neighbors or your own children), you pay attention to that difference.
nordanney schrieb:
Nice that old geezers were never children...Nerves in old age are not what they used to be in childhood. You can understand older people when you reach a point yourself to rest in your final days and spend your retirement, as pleasant as it may be.
And you can't generalize all children either.
(I’m not referring to the OP’s neighbor here.)
@ypg My child is well-behaved, and yelling is not part of how we communicate. If someone wants something, they have two legs to go get it. Still, children are louder than adults. There is a difference between a child shouting "MOM, I WANT" while running through the garden and the mother yelling back "CHARLOTTE, STOP THAT," or making fire engine sounds while playing.
It feels like every other sentence at our place isn’t so loud. As long as it’s acceptable to the neighbors, it’s fine. We actually feel sorry for them because they see us stuck inside and are not allowed to help.
It feels like every other sentence at our place isn’t so loud. As long as it’s acceptable to the neighbors, it’s fine. We actually feel sorry for them because they see us stuck inside and are not allowed to help.
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nordanney18 Apr 2020 11:51ypg schrieb:
Nerves are not the same in old age as they were in childhood. You can understand older people when you yourself reach a point where you want to rest during your final days and spend your retirement, however pleasant it may be. Especially as an older person, you should have the patience and life experience to cope with this. In particular, since children usually only stay at home from midday/afternoon or during weekends. Retirees should be allowed to spend most of their day quietly. If you want constant silence, then please book the apartment in the cemetery.
Yes, children are louder than (most) adults. But that’s great if children are around. Even better if they are reasonably well-behaved and don’t constantly get out of hand.
I would be much more annoyed by neighbors aged 20–30. They are really loud when you actually expect quiet—namely in the evening and at night. But that is rarely discussed.
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