ᐅ Townhouse Floor Plan – What Do You Like and What Don’t You Like?

Created on: 13 Jun 2017 20:03
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research86
Dear Forum,
We have been silent readers for some time and have now reached the point where a first draft has been created for our building project (planned start spring 2018). Before we proceed with the planning, we would appreciate any tips and suggestions regarding the design. Thank you very much!

Development plan/restrictions No
Plot size approx. 1900 m² (20,451 sq ft)
Slope No
Number of floors 2
Roof type hip roof
Style urban villa
Orientation southeast

Owner requirements
Style, roof type, building type none
Basement, floors no, 2
Number of occupants 3
Room requirements on ground floor, upper floor
Office: family use or home office? family
Fireplace yes
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport yes, separate

House design
What do you particularly like? Why?
Gallery in the entrance area, side entrance, large utility room, spacious kitchen, orientation of all main rooms (living room southeast, utility room north), large windows on the south side
What do you dislike? Why?
Children’s room with a corner, position of the chimney (a tile stove is planned on the shared wall on the ground floor)
Cost estimate according to architect/designer: approx. €290,000
Why does the design look like it does now?
Research and "combining" of various floor plans, own ideas

House floor plan: living/dining, kitchen, guest room, utility room, shower/WC, staircase.

Upper floor plan: hallway, master bedroom, child 1, child 2, office, storage room, walk-in closet, bathroom.
11ant14 Jun 2017 15:59
ypg schrieb:
We are not talking to the shell construction company here, but to a user who wants to build a house and is seeking feedback on their floor plan.
And that is exactly what they are getting.
ypg schrieb:
So one should address this person in a way that they can understand and avoid lecturing helpful users,
the lecturing comment
Alex85 schrieb:
The plaster is still missing from the wall thicknesses.
was not by me. That alone wouldn’t have been so misleading, but
Alex85 schrieb:
does not actually contribute to understanding the usable area.
that is more the case: the usable area would be misunderstood if one assumed the nominal measurement minus plaster as the actual finished dimension. Masons are not watchmakers; on site, there are tolerances the thickness of a finger. With gloves on, mind you.
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research86
14 Jun 2017 17:19
Thank you very much for the active participation and the many comments. I would like to provide some additional information regarding the points raised to help clarify our thought process:
Nordlys schrieb:
What is the architect thinking with the bathroom? How does he plan to drain the water with the room below?

The pipes are planned above a suspended ceiling in the guest room... see the note further below.
ypg schrieb:
This can be solved by mirroring the rooms above.

We considered this for a long time. On one hand, the bedroom would then face south-west and heat up more in summer. On the other hand, an open gallery is planned above the main entrance. Due to the staircase arrangement required by this (which, as far as I can imagine, cannot be rotated), the room on the right side must be at least about 20 sqm (215 sq ft) in size, which is too large for our bathroom.
11ant schrieb:
The utility room has an exterior door with a sidelight.

We want a fairly large utility room as it will also serve as the main entrance during the day. It should also include a small workshop, washing machine, etc.
ypg schrieb:
I would be interested in the elevations. I suspect the windows could be shifted a bit.

I have attached them. We find the design quite coherent and, unlike the first planner, we also made sure there was a reasonable overall appearance. Of course, the colors will be different.
MIA_SAN_MIA__ schrieb:
What I don’t like is the position of the window in the kitchen. What is the reason for this placement?

The windowsill is intended to continue directly into a natural stone dining table, which will be installed at the same height as the worktop.
Alex85 schrieb:
What is included in the estimated 290,000€? For 200 sqm (2,150 sq ft), this should be questioned.

A finished house without development and surveying costs, as well as tile flooring and tiled walls.
Too much? Too little?
Alex85 schrieb:
A lot of living/dining area is lost, since it has to be kept clear due to the many exits. Especially the area below the kitchen is almost not usable for furniture because of all the circulation paths. In general, the space isn’t very deep for a nice dining area.

We have measured and tested this and basically believe it is sufficient for us for an extendable table with mostly 4 – max. 6 chairs. Smaller meals like breakfast are intended to be eaten in the kitchen anyway.

I hope this makes some things clearer now and I look forward to more feedback.

Two-story white house with large windows and wooden frames, black roof, and red chimney.


3D model of a two-story white house with dark roof, golden window frames, and two doors.
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Alex85
14 Jun 2017 17:39
research86 schrieb:
We measured and tried this out, and we basically think it’s sufficient for us for an extendable table with usually only 4 to max. 6 chairs. Smaller meals like breakfast are planned to take place in the kitchen anyway.

Don’t underestimate this. You won’t actually use all the doors, and both inside and outside (patio/terrace) you have to keep the areas clear for them to be usable. They take up a lot of space.
research86 schrieb:
Finished house without development and surveying costs as well as tiled floors and walls: too much? too little?

Including earthworks and architect’s fees? Garden/garage extra?

Others can estimate that better. To me, it feels too low, and depending on the features even significantly too low (I notice wooden windows ...).
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kbt09
14 Jun 2017 17:46
research86 schrieb:
The windowsill is intended to continue seamlessly into a natural stone dining table, which should be installed at the same height as the countertop.

So, the sketch you have there is meant to roughly represent a kitchen layout? Tall cabinets on the right wall facing the hallway? Try drawing it to scale and check the workflow. Also include the terrace, the dining table, and the fireplace, then assess the access route to the terrace.

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research86
14 Jun 2017 18:38
I tried to illustrate this a bit more clearly. Two of the doors are planned as fixed glazing, and the tiled stove connects to the chimney. On the right side of the kitchen, there is a side-by-side refrigerator (91 cm [36 inches] wide) and the oven unit. We have already visited the kitchen showroom and had the details laid out for us.

The garden and garage would be additional costs on top of the final price. However, the clear structural height is only listed as 2.635 m (8 ft 8 in) for the ground floor and 2.57 m (8 ft 5 in) for the upper floor, which is a deal-breaker for us (188 cm [6 ft 2 in] and 180 cm [5 ft 11 in]).
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research86
14 Jun 2017 18:39
Attachment forgotten

Ground floor plan of a house: living/dining room, kitchen, guest room, utility room, hallway, and bathroom.