ᐅ Can a lift-and-slide door be as airtight as a standard door?

Created on: 7 Aug 2021 10:37
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manohara
We have one lift-and-slide patio door and will soon be getting a second one.
I like them because sliding doors don’t get in the way, they are easy to operate... and even people unfamiliar with the mechanism can quickly figure them out.
But sometimes I wonder if the brush seals can really provide effective insulation 😱
I’ve read that nowadays they are very tightly sealed 🙂
I would be interested in a comparison of the insulation performance of lift-and-slide doors versus “regular” doors.

I have been looking for this information for a while without success... 🙄
Does anyone know a website where I can find information on this?
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ypg
7 Aug 2021 20:34
manohara schrieb:

A gutter "in front"?

Where exactly?
And: a gutter for what? Water?

Yes, surface/roof runoff water. These gutters are generally something people prefer to avoid.
manohara schrieb:

and also people unfamiliar with the technology can handle it quickly.

I can’t manage the modern elements (lift-and-slide windows?) at all. Every time I try to operate them, the owner rushes over in alarm, worried I might break something :p
11ant7 Aug 2021 21:00
ypg schrieb:

I really can’t get along with the modern units (lift-and-slide?). Every time I try to operate them, the owner rushes over in panic, worried I might break something.
You probably mean parallel-sliding-tilt windows.
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ypg
7 Aug 2021 21:08
11ant schrieb:

You probably mean lift-and-slide tilt windows.
No idea 😀 They seem to tilt towards me when I want to slide them shut.
But never mind: if the original poster finds them easy to use, that’s fine.
manohara7 Aug 2021 21:19
ypg schrieb:

They are almost tilted towards me
Yes, that's exactly what lift-and-slide doors do better—they don’t tilt.
manohara9 Aug 2021 07:22
In the meantime, I have taken a closer look at how the door operates (something I should have done a long time ago :rolleyes 🙂 and I’m pleasantly surprised by the clever design:
When the door is lifted, it raises at the top from a track with a tapered cross-section (which can be adjusted), and when it lowers, this gap closes again. This should reliably prevent at least air exchange. (I should have figured that out earlier... :rolleyes 🙂
I think the system works well 😎 (the brush seal is not the main seal but probably mainly helps keep out dust and insects).
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hampshire
9 Aug 2021 08:58
ypg schrieb:

I really can’t get the hang of modern components (lift-and-slide?). Every time I try to operate them, the owner rushes over in shock, worried I might break something :p

I hope it’s a matter of understanding the door mechanism rather than your fine motor skills 😉...
manohara schrieb:

I think the system actually works 😎 (the brush seal isn’t the main seal but probably helps mainly against dust and insects)

That’s correct. The bottom track is part of the sealing system, and there are even models that are resistant to driving rain. The seal at the top lifts and lowers with the door, making it easier to operate. There are no fundamental problems left to solve, so you can find good models.