Bought a house, estimated the renovation budget plus 10-15% for inevitable extras, and we set aside 5000 EUR for the kitchen!!!!
That’s how it started... at first, I was in a bit of shock, but we still had time. First step: remove all the walls for a new layout—I need space...
Let’s start with the (according to the agent) move-in ready property. The small kitchen, just under 8 square meters (about 86 square feet), had its 1970s pass-through removed. The wall including the kitchen door is gone! The wall next to the cellar stairs is gone too! Actually, the entire slanted wall, nearly 7 meters (23 feet) high, removed completely...
The window had to go as well since we needed a different working height than the standard 90 cm (35 inches). New screed installed, we switched to underfloor heating, all electrical wiring and water pipes are new.
After almost six months, the realization slowly sank in: the kitchen budget will not exceed 5000 EUR, so we had to look for a used kitchen... something special, but very cheap.
The search criteria: within a 100 km (62 miles) radius, up to 1000 EUR, because I still want new appliances.
That’s how it started... at first, I was in a bit of shock, but we still had time. First step: remove all the walls for a new layout—I need space...
Let’s start with the (according to the agent) move-in ready property. The small kitchen, just under 8 square meters (about 86 square feet), had its 1970s pass-through removed. The wall including the kitchen door is gone! The wall next to the cellar stairs is gone too! Actually, the entire slanted wall, nearly 7 meters (23 feet) high, removed completely...
The window had to go as well since we needed a different working height than the standard 90 cm (35 inches). New screed installed, we switched to underfloor heating, all electrical wiring and water pipes are new.
After almost six months, the realization slowly sank in: the kitchen budget will not exceed 5000 EUR, so we had to look for a used kitchen... something special, but very cheap.
The search criteria: within a 100 km (62 miles) radius, up to 1000 EUR, because I still want new appliances.
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erazorlll2 Dec 2020 11:39halmi schrieb:
Exactly, fingerprints are obviously more visible on dark colors, especially with oily fingers. However, the glass is definitely easier to maintain than our lacquered fronts from the previous kitchen (also Schüller). I felt that fingerprints were barely visible on the glass fronts – but unfortunately, your photo shows something different.
At the kitchen showroom, we looked at black gloss, black matte, black matte with anti-fingerprint, and glass fronts. Black gloss and regular black matte were immediately ruled out, as every fingerprint showed up right away. Next, I found the black matte with anti-fingerprint and the glass fronts to be quite similar. Fingerprints were hardly noticeable and could be removed relatively easily.
What has been your experience so far? We currently have a white kitchen, where you don’t see any marks at all, so I’m asking quite specifically.
The photos were taken immediately after assembly, so nothing had been cleaned yet.
We tried it out and this was also confirmed by two salespeople: the glass front is basically more or less equivalent to lacquer no fingerprint. However, black is black—if every fingerprint immediately drives you crazy, it’s better to avoid it 😉
Before, we had this Lava black from Schüller, which is more of a dark anthracite. You could see fingerprints more on that, and the maintenance was more demanding.
We tried it out and this was also confirmed by two salespeople: the glass front is basically more or less equivalent to lacquer no fingerprint. However, black is black—if every fingerprint immediately drives you crazy, it’s better to avoid it 😉
Before, we had this Lava black from Schüller, which is more of a dark anthracite. You could see fingerprints more on that, and the maintenance was more demanding.
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hampshire2 Dec 2020 13:52Our kitchen has matte black fronts. During use, fingerprints, stains, and sometimes even a dog’s nose appear— which is not a problem for a workspace like this. These are wiped off occasionally, requiring minimal effort. Of course, anyone who needs their home to be spotless at all times will always have more cleaning to do, and in that case, the few extra seconds of care that the black fronts need can be bothersome.
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erazorlll2 Dec 2020 14:16Thanks for your replies.
I wasn’t aiming for spotless or cleaning every second. We had only seen the glass fronts in person and tested them for fingerprints, and it was really perfect for us. But then I saw halmi’s pictures, and it looked quite different there, which made me a bit unsure. Of course, if those photos were taken right after installation, that’s completely understandable. So, all good.
I wasn’t aiming for spotless or cleaning every second. We had only seen the glass fronts in person and tested them for fingerprints, and it was really perfect for us. But then I saw halmi’s pictures, and it looked quite different there, which made me a bit unsure. Of course, if those photos were taken right after installation, that’s completely understandable. So, all good.
Obermuh schrieb:
During testing in the planning phase, lava gray was one of the most resilient surfaces available, but we don't have long-term experience yet since we haven't moved in. If lava from Next125 is similar to lava from Schüller, then everything shows. However, it depends on the lighting. For us, everything is visible.
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