Hello everyone,
Finally, my floor plans are ready. Only our basement living area is missing, but I still need some information from the architect. The plan includes a laundry room, the heating room, a storage room, an office, and a large hobby room with a bathroom and a small kitchenette.
Attached is the site plan. It was provided by our architect and has been approved by the building authority regarding setback distances and parking spaces. I only added privacy fences and a garden shed. The positions are based on local neighborhood regulations. To the north, there is a garden plot (not buildable), to the east another new building is being constructed, to the south is the street (30 km/h (18.6 mph) zone) and across from it a house with a garden. To the west, directly adjacent to our property, there is a driveway and a garage, with another house next to it.
I’m trying to provide as much information as possible:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 412.5 sqm (4,440 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.25
Floor area ratio: 0.50
Number of parking spaces: 2 free parking spaces
Number of stories: 2 floors (attic counts as 2nd floor due to knee wall) + basement living area
Roof type: gable roof, 25 degrees, knee wall 160 cm (63 inches)
Client requirements
Number of people: 2 adults (eventually + 2 children), ages 28 and 34
Office: home office in the basement living area
Kitchen: closed kitchen with a kitchen island pushed against the wall
Number of dining seats: 4, extendable to 6
Fireplace: no
Additional wishes
- The garden should be completely shielded from views (hence the privacy fence)
- We did not plan any garages, as we never had one and have never missed it. For strollers, garden furniture, etc., I have planned a garden shed, which also serves as a privacy screen
- We want a closed kitchen, no open kitchen. We don’t like that look.
- On the ground floor, we need a small niche for the vacuum cleaner, ironing board, water crates, etc.
- A walk-in closet is a must
- As well as a walk-in, built-in shower
I’m really looking forward to your opinions!
Finally, my floor plans are ready. Only our basement living area is missing, but I still need some information from the architect. The plan includes a laundry room, the heating room, a storage room, an office, and a large hobby room with a bathroom and a small kitchenette.
Attached is the site plan. It was provided by our architect and has been approved by the building authority regarding setback distances and parking spaces. I only added privacy fences and a garden shed. The positions are based on local neighborhood regulations. To the north, there is a garden plot (not buildable), to the east another new building is being constructed, to the south is the street (30 km/h (18.6 mph) zone) and across from it a house with a garden. To the west, directly adjacent to our property, there is a driveway and a garage, with another house next to it.
I’m trying to provide as much information as possible:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 412.5 sqm (4,440 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.25
Floor area ratio: 0.50
Number of parking spaces: 2 free parking spaces
Number of stories: 2 floors (attic counts as 2nd floor due to knee wall) + basement living area
Roof type: gable roof, 25 degrees, knee wall 160 cm (63 inches)
Client requirements
Number of people: 2 adults (eventually + 2 children), ages 28 and 34
Office: home office in the basement living area
Kitchen: closed kitchen with a kitchen island pushed against the wall
Number of dining seats: 4, extendable to 6
Fireplace: no
Additional wishes
- The garden should be completely shielded from views (hence the privacy fence)
- We did not plan any garages, as we never had one and have never missed it. For strollers, garden furniture, etc., I have planned a garden shed, which also serves as a privacy screen
- We want a closed kitchen, no open kitchen. We don’t like that look.
- On the ground floor, we need a small niche for the vacuum cleaner, ironing board, water crates, etc.
- A walk-in closet is a must
- As well as a walk-in, built-in shower
I’m really looking forward to your opinions!
From the original thread (about the fence, when the house was still a finite element in the site plan), the information hasn’t been carried over here: the house being built is a Bien-Zenker Celebration 125, made up of several versions and then further customized in the floor plan (but with unchanged house dimensions). The wall structures "Effizienzhaus 55 (eco) Thermo" have a total thickness of 336 mm (13 inches).
I probably won’t get around to illustrating change suggestions this week. Until then, just this much: move away from the computer drawing. Print out the original plan in several versions, there are enough on the website, and then take scissors and rearrange it like a puzzle. Scanning the result is enough for discussion here and also with the architect. She won’t import the drawing as a file for further processing anyway.
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I probably won’t get around to illustrating change suggestions this week. Until then, just this much: move away from the computer drawing. Print out the original plan in several versions, there are enough on the website, and then take scissors and rearrange it like a puzzle. Scanning the result is enough for discussion here and also with the architect. She won’t import the drawing as a file for further processing anyway.
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https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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toxicmolotof3 Apr 2017 14:26The right door of the living room (leading to the hallway) opens inward and is hinged on the left. It should be hinged on the right. Otherwise, you’ll frequently bump into it or have to walk around the door.
Our walk-in closet is about 2.80 meters (9 ft 2 in) wide and 1.75 meters (5 ft 9 in) deep, enclosed by a sliding door across the entire width. The free movement space, excluding cabinets, is 1.50 x 1.35 meters (5 ft 0 in x 4 ft 5 in), which is almost square. I consider such dimensions an absolute minimum. You only have 86 cm (34 in), which really isn’t sufficient. At least 120 cm (47 in), preferably 140 cm (55 in), is needed.
Also, the planned 50 cm (20 in) on the left and right will not fit. Even the central section with 2x75 cm (2x30 in) won’t fit between the corner units. We have 150 cm (59 in) at 38 cm (15 in) depth and 325 cm (128 in) at 60 cm (24 in) depth. Corner cabinets are really inconvenient (you can’t fit anything inside). It’s better to use a 60 cm (24 in) cabinet in 100 cm (39 in) length and place a 38 cm (15 in) cabinet across in front of it. The resulting corner can be used for winter coats and other infrequently used clothes.
I like such tall strip windows, but you have to want that, and the exterior design must allow for it.
But I repeat myself:
You’re putting the cart before the horse. The main thing is that cabinets and privacy screens are installed; everything else should simply follow...
Let your architect DO HIS job. He gets paid a lot (by you!) for it.
Our walk-in closet is about 2.80 meters (9 ft 2 in) wide and 1.75 meters (5 ft 9 in) deep, enclosed by a sliding door across the entire width. The free movement space, excluding cabinets, is 1.50 x 1.35 meters (5 ft 0 in x 4 ft 5 in), which is almost square. I consider such dimensions an absolute minimum. You only have 86 cm (34 in), which really isn’t sufficient. At least 120 cm (47 in), preferably 140 cm (55 in), is needed.
Also, the planned 50 cm (20 in) on the left and right will not fit. Even the central section with 2x75 cm (2x30 in) won’t fit between the corner units. We have 150 cm (59 in) at 38 cm (15 in) depth and 325 cm (128 in) at 60 cm (24 in) depth. Corner cabinets are really inconvenient (you can’t fit anything inside). It’s better to use a 60 cm (24 in) cabinet in 100 cm (39 in) length and place a 38 cm (15 in) cabinet across in front of it. The resulting corner can be used for winter coats and other infrequently used clothes.
I like such tall strip windows, but you have to want that, and the exterior design must allow for it.
But I repeat myself:
You’re putting the cart before the horse. The main thing is that cabinets and privacy screens are installed; everything else should simply follow...
Let your architect DO HIS job. He gets paid a lot (by you!) for it.
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toxicmolotof3 Apr 2017 14:30And a bathroom door that opens outward into the hallway is still uncommon but justified.
Emergency services appreciate it when someone falls unconscious inside the bathroom. In barrier-free houses/apartments, this is actually mandatory. It is also standard in newer hospitals and public buildings.
Downside: The door, if not closed, constantly protrudes more or less into the traffic path.
Emergency services appreciate it when someone falls unconscious inside the bathroom. In barrier-free houses/apartments, this is actually mandatory. It is also standard in newer hospitals and public buildings.
Downside: The door, if not closed, constantly protrudes more or less into the traffic path.
The architect needs to know where to move the walls and the exact layout of the spiral staircase. I would discuss door swing directions with her in this working sketch only when a specific swing direction is desired.
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Schnuckline3 Apr 2017 15:03@RobsonMKK I forgot to mention in all the planning (especially the bathroom) that my boyfriend is about 2 meters tall (6 ft 7 in).
@11ant Thanks for the update. You’re reliable. Thanks for planning to find some time eventually. I’ll keep updating here on what the architect thinks of my little plans. I’ve already sent them over.
@toxicmolotow I’d love to have a walk-in closet like yours as well. I still need to tape out the area on the floor with painter’s tape today to see how it feels. Then I have to go to Ikea again to check out a Pax wardrobe in person. But it looks like I’ll actually have to design it deeper...
I got the first plans from the architect, and I really didn’t like them. That’s why I decided to make the preliminary drafts myself. She plans very much by the book, and you can tell she’s someone who won’t be living in the house later. To get it exactly how I want, I’d have to sit next to her for days showing her what I want. I might as well do it myself and then listen to her suggestions for improvements afterward. I’ve also toured a house that was designed without considering the furniture. Then the sofa ends up right in front of a full-height window or something like that because no one thought about how much space the furniture needs. You know what I mean? Without the furniture in mind, I’d just move the walk-in closet wall closer to the bed and later realize: oops, where is the dresser with the TV supposed to go? There’s no way to fit it in. Just as an example. I wanted to explain why I’m approaching this in such a strange way.
Oh, I’m slowly driving myself crazy. It feels like I’m just going in circles. If I completely remove the walk-in closet and just put in a big wardrobe instead, the door will hit the wardrobe, and then there’s no wall left for the dresser and TV again. I’m really losing it.
@11ant Thanks for the update. You’re reliable. Thanks for planning to find some time eventually. I’ll keep updating here on what the architect thinks of my little plans. I’ve already sent them over.
@toxicmolotow I’d love to have a walk-in closet like yours as well. I still need to tape out the area on the floor with painter’s tape today to see how it feels. Then I have to go to Ikea again to check out a Pax wardrobe in person. But it looks like I’ll actually have to design it deeper...
I got the first plans from the architect, and I really didn’t like them. That’s why I decided to make the preliminary drafts myself. She plans very much by the book, and you can tell she’s someone who won’t be living in the house later. To get it exactly how I want, I’d have to sit next to her for days showing her what I want. I might as well do it myself and then listen to her suggestions for improvements afterward. I’ve also toured a house that was designed without considering the furniture. Then the sofa ends up right in front of a full-height window or something like that because no one thought about how much space the furniture needs. You know what I mean? Without the furniture in mind, I’d just move the walk-in closet wall closer to the bed and later realize: oops, where is the dresser with the TV supposed to go? There’s no way to fit it in. Just as an example. I wanted to explain why I’m approaching this in such a strange way.
Oh, I’m slowly driving myself crazy. It feels like I’m just going in circles. If I completely remove the walk-in closet and just put in a big wardrobe instead, the door will hit the wardrobe, and then there’s no wall left for the dresser and TV again. I’m really losing it.
No, build an L-shaped wall unit around the corner. Then place a short partition wall at the side, behind the dresser. Well, now I have to go—the Lord has set diligence before the end of the workday.
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