ᐅ New construction of a single-family house with 150 sqm of living space, Saarland
Created on: 29 Apr 2021 16:04
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chrisOo
Hello everyone,
I am planning to start a new build in Saarland this year.
The exterior dimensions of the house will be approximately 9.5 x 10.5 meters (31 x 34.5 feet). I wanted to share my floor plan with you and ask if you have any opinions. However, the plans currently have dimensions of 9 x 10 meters (29.5 x 33 feet).
My first idea is to remove the wall next to the staircase in the kitchen and create a 3-meter (10 feet) kitchen island parallel to the kitchen units along the right exterior wall.
Upstairs, the walk-in closet should be larger and get a connecting door to the bathroom. A garage with an access door will be added in front of the utility room.
Regarding the site plan: the house will actually be located behind the house with number 84, not as shown in the drawing. House number 84 will be demolished beforehand.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Christoph
I am planning to start a new build in Saarland this year.
The exterior dimensions of the house will be approximately 9.5 x 10.5 meters (31 x 34.5 feet). I wanted to share my floor plan with you and ask if you have any opinions. However, the plans currently have dimensions of 9 x 10 meters (29.5 x 33 feet).
My first idea is to remove the wall next to the staircase in the kitchen and create a 3-meter (10 feet) kitchen island parallel to the kitchen units along the right exterior wall.
Upstairs, the walk-in closet should be larger and get a connecting door to the bathroom. A garage with an access door will be added in front of the utility room.
Regarding the site plan: the house will actually be located behind the house with number 84, not as shown in the drawing. House number 84 will be demolished beforehand.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Christoph
Drasleona schrieb:
I can completely understand your preference for a straight staircase, we also really wanted that (against the advice here in the forum).So, how did you implement it?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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Drasleona2 May 2021 20:1111ant schrieb:
So, how did you implement it?We actually planned a straight staircase. Currently, the construction stair is still in place, but I think I can still imagine it well. It will be a white steel stringer staircase with oak steps and a glass railing. It should be as light and "transparent" as possible, so it doesn’t make the hallway feel cramped.
We also had to make compromises for this, but they were acceptable to us. You can read all about it in a thread of mine here, where we even had some heated discussions 😀
I just find it a pity: the original poster and I have very similar starting conditions, almost identical floor plans, I was in the same position, but it’s simply not being accepted.
Also pagoni2020, I don’t have to look up the specific comments I’m referring to, right? You did notice the spam that has appeared here and the mention of some "Furzheimer," didn’t you? It’s clear this is not about comments like those from vanny2705.
Regarding the fireplace: no, gas is unfortunately not an option. And yes, I want to have a fireplace because I don’t want to be dependent on a single heat source. Furthermore, I have experience with houses that include a fireplace.
No prefabricated house. Yes, solid construction (ytong), two full floors, and a gable roof (relatively flat because of photovoltaic panels).
About the door to the garage: what’s the alternative? No direct access from the garage into the house, which I actually don’t want.
Ground-floor guest bathroom: it’s not just for guests. What else could the extra space be used for?
With the fireplace on the exterior wall: so in my case, with this positioning, the chimney could also run along the outside, correct?
Actual dimensions of sofa or other furniture: not for the sofa, but for example, I want the table in this size. Basically, I’ve already thought about the room dimensions. I was at my parents-in-law’s today and actually find their living room very large. I measured it roughly 4 x 4.5 m (13 x 15 feet). I feel that is spacious.
I will discuss the straight staircase with the architect.
Best regards,
Christoph
Regarding the fireplace: no, gas is unfortunately not an option. And yes, I want to have a fireplace because I don’t want to be dependent on a single heat source. Furthermore, I have experience with houses that include a fireplace.
No prefabricated house. Yes, solid construction (ytong), two full floors, and a gable roof (relatively flat because of photovoltaic panels).
About the door to the garage: what’s the alternative? No direct access from the garage into the house, which I actually don’t want.
Ground-floor guest bathroom: it’s not just for guests. What else could the extra space be used for?
With the fireplace on the exterior wall: so in my case, with this positioning, the chimney could also run along the outside, correct?
Actual dimensions of sofa or other furniture: not for the sofa, but for example, I want the table in this size. Basically, I’ve already thought about the room dimensions. I was at my parents-in-law’s today and actually find their living room very large. I measured it roughly 4 x 4.5 m (13 x 15 feet). I feel that is spacious.
I will discuss the straight staircase with the architect.
Best regards,
Christoph
chrisOo schrieb:
What is wrong with the office? It seems fine for my needs, or am I missing something?Even though these are details your floor plan is still far from addressing, it’s good to discuss them.Still: position windows, doors, and fireplace so the office can be furnished practically.
Addition: I just noticed the fireplace has “legs” again and has been moved elsewhere.
(Stove in the kitchen. This keeps getting more interesting...) 😳
chrisOo schrieb:
You have noticed that there has already been spam here and someone mentioned a "Furzheimer," right?Where exactly was there any spam here? The joy over meeting again a colleague from Pforzheim in the green forum might only be clear to insiders, but that doesn’t matter.
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pagoni20202 May 2021 20:49chrisOo schrieb:
Regarding the fireplace: no, unfortunately gas is not an option. And yes, I want a fireplace because I don’t want to rely solely on one heat source. Furthermore, I have "experience" with houses that have fireplaces. This apparently positive "experience," where a fireplace as you currently planned it, combined with underfloor heating, would definitely interest many here (including me); also, the apparently positive insights regarding the required clearance from such a fireplace due to heat and how it is experienced would be of interest. In the meantime, you have moved it around a few times, finally considering the necessity of a chimney flue on the upper floor, even though it again takes up some of the limited space there.
In its current location, you probably will hardly ever use it. Your dinner guest’s ice will melt before the first spoonful is tasted, or their upper thigh will be burning; your bar companion might need sunscreen on their back. It’s still like playing TETRIS when you try to squeeze individual wishes into a fixed space.
chrisOo schrieb:
Regarding the door to the garage: what is the alternative? Simply leave it out, save money, and enter through the front door; it’s just three steps. Otherwise, you pay and lose interior space, which is already quite tight.
chrisOo schrieb:
Ground floor guest bathroom: it’s not only for guests. What could the extra space be used for? I understand why you wouldn’t want a bigger bathroom if space is limited. But your current problem is exactly at this point, since you apparently think that the extra 2 square meters (about 22 square feet) in the front aren’t useful because you feel like you are playing Tetris and want to use any extra space directly next to it. That’s not how it works. Having those 2 square meters more in the living room would be great – but that would require an open-minded approach to planning, which isn’t happening here.
chrisOo schrieb:
With the fireplace on the outer wall: so in my case, the chimney flue could also run externally along that wall, correct? That needs to be examined in detail. For various reasons, including space and cost, we do it that way as well. But everything has to fit together—windows on the upper floor, height, etc. I tend to think that the heat in the small rooms combined with underfloor heating could be problematic; but apparently, you have different "experience" with that. If the fireplace is mostly a "toy" for occasional use rather than for primary heating, it can even be done with an installed, external, large gas bottle. It may not be the ideal solution, but it’s better than the current option.
chrisOo schrieb:
Exact sofa dimensions or other furniture: not for the sofa, Banggg... why not???? You have such a tight spot downstairs and you don’t want to be shocked after construction is done, so why those inaccuracies at such an important point? Sure, a bean bag always fits...
chrisOo schrieb:
But I want the table, for example, in this size. I know the "I want" already from the stairs, fireplace, etc., and you can want that in YOUR house. But that desire comes with consequences, especially in your tight floor plan.
chrisOo schrieb:
After measuring, it’s almost 4 x 4.5 meters (13 x 15 feet). I consider that large. 18 square meters (about 194 square feet) can be sufficient depending on taste, but it is definitely not "large." All of this depends on your preferences. Do the parents have the straight staircase, this fireplace, a family with small children...?
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