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anna12345_82404 Feb 2012 23:09Hello, we have a Faktum kitchen and unfortunately, the dishwasher is missing. To avoid completely remodeling everything, we have the following idea:
We have a 60cm (24 inch) tall cabinet with three drawers at the bottom, then the oven, and above that a compartment with a door. Would it be possible to remove the three bottom drawers and install a fully integrated IKEA dishwasher there? Could it be placed directly on the cabinet floor, or would that need to be removed so the dishwasher sits on the floor? We have enough space height-wise — between the dishwasher and the oven, there would be a panel or a small drawer.
A narrow dishwasher would also be sufficient — that would leave a bit of extra space next to it — but with the door closed, it should still look “normal” from the outside.
What options are there? The width of the dishwasher is the same as our oven...
Thanks for your advice!
We have a 60cm (24 inch) tall cabinet with three drawers at the bottom, then the oven, and above that a compartment with a door. Would it be possible to remove the three bottom drawers and install a fully integrated IKEA dishwasher there? Could it be placed directly on the cabinet floor, or would that need to be removed so the dishwasher sits on the floor? We have enough space height-wise — between the dishwasher and the oven, there would be a panel or a small drawer.
A narrow dishwasher would also be sufficient — that would leave a bit of extra space next to it — but with the door closed, it should still look “normal” from the outside.
What options are there? The width of the dishwasher is the same as our oven...
Thanks for your advice!
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Maverick18546 Feb 2012 08:16Why? Is there a regulation that the oven and another electrical appliance cannot be placed in the same cabinet? Because of the heat from the oven? Air circulation? Or is there another reason?
I haven’t heard of that before. Oops:
So why is it allowed for appliances to be installed side by side?
I haven’t heard of that before. Oops:
So why is it allowed for appliances to be installed side by side?
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IKEA-Experte6 Feb 2012 17:54I also wonder why this should generally be a problem. A dishwasher above the oven might not be ideal in case of water leakage, but no one would do that anyway, as it would be highly impractical.
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fotokatze10 Feb 2012 20:11Hello!
Well, I don’t think that will ever work. A standard dishwasher is 60cm (24 inches) wide on the outside and therefore will never fit into a standard Faktum cabinet, which has an internal width of around 56cm (22 inches).
I solved this with a "special" modular dishwasher unit from Siemens combined with a Siemens microwave/oven stacked above it.
Our friends are always amazed at how easy and convenient loading the dishwasher can be...
The dishwasher is perfect for our two-person household, but it does require more maintenance. It needs a lot more care, like cleaning the filter, since it’s significantly smaller.
A similar model is also available from SMEG, the STC75:
I used a Faktum tall cabinet with two drawers at the bottom.
Then, going upwards: dishwasher (60cm (24 inches) height), then microwave/oven (45cm (18 inches) height), and above that there is a compartment with a front that I fitted with hinges from the hardware store to open upwards. The dimensions in the picture above aren’t correct because the dishwasher is 60cm (24 inches) tall, which is 15cm (6 inches) taller than the lower oven shown. Because of this, the door at the top no longer fits properly and so on. That’s why you have to make some adjustments at the top. But it wasn’t a big problem—any IKEA enthusiast can handle it easily. You could also make the top door 15cm (6 inches) shorter, but we had limited space in the kitchen and it seemed more practical for the door to fold up. This has proven to work well. Even though the upper oven is then 15cm (6 inches) higher than usual, at 165cm (5 feet 5 inches) tall I can still just about reach and use it. For people under 160cm (5 feet 3 inches), I think operating an upper oven at that height could be challenging. Everyone has to decide and figure that out for themselves.
Honestly, for anyone who doesn’t want to kneel down submissively in front of the dishwasher but prefers to load and unload it at a normal height, roughly at countertop level, they will never want to go back to an “under-counter” model. But, as mentioned, you have to be willing and able to live with the considerably smaller capacity.
For us as two people it works very well, and we do tend to run the machine almost every day. In the past, with a standard “kneeling” model, we usually only ran the dishwasher every two days.
fotokatze
Well, I don’t think that will ever work. A standard dishwasher is 60cm (24 inches) wide on the outside and therefore will never fit into a standard Faktum cabinet, which has an internal width of around 56cm (22 inches).
I solved this with a "special" modular dishwasher unit from Siemens combined with a Siemens microwave/oven stacked above it.
Our friends are always amazed at how easy and convenient loading the dishwasher can be...
The dishwasher is perfect for our two-person household, but it does require more maintenance. It needs a lot more care, like cleaning the filter, since it’s significantly smaller.
A similar model is also available from SMEG, the STC75:
I used a Faktum tall cabinet with two drawers at the bottom.
Then, going upwards: dishwasher (60cm (24 inches) height), then microwave/oven (45cm (18 inches) height), and above that there is a compartment with a front that I fitted with hinges from the hardware store to open upwards. The dimensions in the picture above aren’t correct because the dishwasher is 60cm (24 inches) tall, which is 15cm (6 inches) taller than the lower oven shown. Because of this, the door at the top no longer fits properly and so on. That’s why you have to make some adjustments at the top. But it wasn’t a big problem—any IKEA enthusiast can handle it easily. You could also make the top door 15cm (6 inches) shorter, but we had limited space in the kitchen and it seemed more practical for the door to fold up. This has proven to work well. Even though the upper oven is then 15cm (6 inches) higher than usual, at 165cm (5 feet 5 inches) tall I can still just about reach and use it. For people under 160cm (5 feet 3 inches), I think operating an upper oven at that height could be challenging. Everyone has to decide and figure that out for themselves.
Honestly, for anyone who doesn’t want to kneel down submissively in front of the dishwasher but prefers to load and unload it at a normal height, roughly at countertop level, they will never want to go back to an “under-counter” model. But, as mentioned, you have to be willing and able to live with the considerably smaller capacity.
For us as two people it works very well, and we do tend to run the machine almost every day. In the past, with a standard “kneeling” model, we usually only ran the dishwasher every two days.
fotokatze
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IKEA-Experte11 Feb 2012 17:04A 60cm (24 inch) wide appliance obviously won't fit into the cabinet, but a 45cm (18 inch) unit with a 60cm (24 inch) front would basically work. The price for a built-in appliance is quite significant. If you want to place the 45cm (18 inch) unit inside the cabinet, you need to make sure that both the cabinet and the appliance are properly secured.
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Elvis_122012 Feb 2012 11:33There is a device from AEG with a special exterior dimension (55cm (22 inches)) that was specifically designed for such cases. As far as I know, it is also the only manufacturer offering something like this – and they charge a premium for this niche solution.
AEG FAVORIT 75500 Vi0 -- RRP: 1,199€
AEG FAVORIT 75500 Vi0 -- RRP: 1,199€
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