ᐅ Hillside House in the Southwest Palatinate – Our Home Construction 2.0
Created on: 9 Sep 2022 18:13
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kati1337
Good evening everyone
I’m starting a small collection thread here for photos and progress updates on our second building project.
We’ve already moved to the Palatinate region to be closer to the construction site. Now we’re watching eagerly and happily as our (hopefully final) dream home takes shape near family.
One big challenge still ahead of us is the facade design. I really love the Nordic style with brickwork and mullioned windows. That won’t be possible here for two reasons: firstly, no one here can do bricklaying, and secondly, it would stand out too much. We will be going with a rendered facade. How to design the colors of the facade and windows to still create some country house / cottage charm is currently still a work in progress mentally.
Otherwise, I’m sharing our plans here and how it will eventually be built.
The support pillar marked near the kitchen island could be removed for a small extra cost, so that will be gone.
The room for “garden equipment” under the garage will get a partition wall for structural reasons.
It won’t be fully finished living space like in the house, but underfloor heating will be installed, along with a lockable door and a window. It’s meant to store garden tools but also some of the building services equipment, since the utility room (HAR) is quite small, and maybe be used as a party room.
We had three construction companies in the final selection. In the end, we chose the “doer” – a builder recommended to us here by friends and family. No website, no smartphone, but he is on site every day himself working in overalls. He has a very good reputation in this area and now rarely builds single-family homes. We were a bit lucky through personal connections and a very friendly initial phone call to get our foot in the door. So far we are very satisfied with this choice.
I’m starting a small collection thread here for photos and progress updates on our second building project.
We’ve already moved to the Palatinate region to be closer to the construction site. Now we’re watching eagerly and happily as our (hopefully final) dream home takes shape near family.
One big challenge still ahead of us is the facade design. I really love the Nordic style with brickwork and mullioned windows. That won’t be possible here for two reasons: firstly, no one here can do bricklaying, and secondly, it would stand out too much. We will be going with a rendered facade. How to design the colors of the facade and windows to still create some country house / cottage charm is currently still a work in progress mentally.
Otherwise, I’m sharing our plans here and how it will eventually be built.
The support pillar marked near the kitchen island could be removed for a small extra cost, so that will be gone.
The room for “garden equipment” under the garage will get a partition wall for structural reasons.
It won’t be fully finished living space like in the house, but underfloor heating will be installed, along with a lockable door and a window. It’s meant to store garden tools but also some of the building services equipment, since the utility room (HAR) is quite small, and maybe be used as a party room.
We had three construction companies in the final selection. In the end, we chose the “doer” – a builder recommended to us here by friends and family. No website, no smartphone, but he is on site every day himself working in overalls. He has a very good reputation in this area and now rarely builds single-family homes. We were a bit lucky through personal connections and a very friendly initial phone call to get our foot in the door. So far we are very satisfied with this choice.
Hi,
No, 30-33 cents is the usual price for new contracts at the moment. And renewable electricity should even be capped at 28 cents. I can’t predict the future, but I expect that electricity prices will decrease somewhat in the medium term. That’s why I personally think 40 cents is a bit too high. But who will be right in the end? Let’s talk about it again in 10 years!
Best regards,
Andreas
kati1337 schrieb:
then I would pay 40 cents, not 33?
No, 30-33 cents is the usual price for new contracts at the moment. And renewable electricity should even be capped at 28 cents. I can’t predict the future, but I expect that electricity prices will decrease somewhat in the medium term. That’s why I personally think 40 cents is a bit too high. But who will be right in the end? Let’s talk about it again in 10 years!
Best regards,
Andreas
andimann schrieb:
Hi,
No, 30-33 cents is the normal price for new contracts at the moment. And heat pump electricity is supposed to be capped at 28 cents. I can’t predict the future, but I expect electricity prices to decrease somewhat again in the medium term. That’s why I personally think 40 cents is a bit too high. But who will be right in the end? Let’s talk about it again in 10 years!
Best regards,
Andreas I recently did a comparison, and in our region, I can’t get below 40 cents for green electricity. That’s important to me.
I’m also a bit skeptical about the price. Maybe it will come down a bit in the medium term, but I don’t believe we can make the transition to renewables that’s coming without it affecting the price. But as you said, it’s crystal ball stuff—everyone makes their own predictions.
As far as I know, we don’t get a separate meter for heat pump electricity, but I’m not completely sure. Honestly, I’d rather not have one. It rarely paid off in the past and caused huge hassle with billing because energy providers didn’t really understand it. At least, that has happened in our area and was extremely annoying.
I think you are actually well suited for a photovoltaic system with storage. You work from home, have a heat pump, a power-hungry hobby with your gaming PCs, and also want an electric car. Working from home allows you to manage the charging effectively. With the heat pump and your hobby, you will need electricity even when it’s dark.
And, like you, I find the offered price to be rather in the lower mid-range. It includes complete installation and all services. The price for the storage system is also below the average price level.
In general, I would estimate a payback period of about 10 years and would not apply a strict pure financial return calculation. Therefore, I wouldn’t assume a 3% interest return on the saved money, because otherwise you would have an alternative investment like a garage door. And it’s perfectly fine to do without a garage door—I’ve managed just fine without one for over 10 years. Since your garage is really for the cars and you should have enough other storage space, the garage doesn’t necessarily have to be closed for security reasons.
Ultimately, I see such a system as a good contribution to the energy situation; together with the storage, you would also be doing something from your side to support grid stability.
And, like you, I find the offered price to be rather in the lower mid-range. It includes complete installation and all services. The price for the storage system is also below the average price level.
In general, I would estimate a payback period of about 10 years and would not apply a strict pure financial return calculation. Therefore, I wouldn’t assume a 3% interest return on the saved money, because otherwise you would have an alternative investment like a garage door. And it’s perfectly fine to do without a garage door—I’ve managed just fine without one for over 10 years. Since your garage is really for the cars and you should have enough other storage space, the garage doesn’t necessarily have to be closed for security reasons.
Ultimately, I see such a system as a good contribution to the energy situation; together with the storage, you would also be doing something from your side to support grid stability.
kbt09 schrieb:
I think you are actually ideal candidates for a photovoltaic system with battery storage. Since you work from home, have a heat pump, use power-demanding gaming PCs as a hobby, and also want an electric car, it makes sense. Working from home allows you to manage charging efficiently. With the heat pump and your hobby, you’ll need electricity even after dark.
And, like you, I find the price offered quite reasonable—more in the lower mid-range. It’s a complete package including installation and all services. The battery price is also below the average price level.
Generally, I would expect a payback period closer to 10 years and wouldn’t strictly calculate pure financial return. That’s why I wouldn’t assume a 3% interest return on the money saved, because in that case you’d alternatively have a garage door. And you can easily get along without a garage door—I've managed that for more than 10 years. Since your garage is indeed just for the cars and you should have enough storage space elsewhere, the garage doesn’t necessarily need to be closed for security reasons.
Ultimately, I also see such a system as a good contribution to the energy situation. Together with the battery, you would also be helping stabilize the grid from your side. Yes, you bring up an important point. We’re also trying a bit to justify the battery to ourselves because we want it for ideological reasons. The several tons of CO2 saved, shown in the offer, definitely appeal to us.
I just wonder if it would make sense to size the battery a bit smaller. I doubt we would fully use it outside of summer with the photovoltaic power if we also charge the car with 20–40 kWh during the week. We would also prefer to use photovoltaic electricity for that. On a daily basis, it’s not important for us to have the car always fully charged. We mostly need it for short trips. It has a 50 kWh battery but can only charge on AC at 6.6 kW.
kati1337 schrieb:
if we also charge the car with 20-40 kWh per week. We would like to use the photovoltaic power for that as well. You don’t always start with an empty battery and only charge once a week. If you recharge every evening, this can usually be done directly from the storage system.
You can already check the electricity futures prices on the EEX exchange. For the next few years, pure electricity prices are around 10 ct/kWh again. That is higher than before the pandemic (especially in percentage terms), but far from catastrophic. At 40 ct/kWh, I wouldn’t do a heat pump system. Still, it’s one of the less unwise ways to spend money. I would definitely take the storage system in the size offered.
Just go ahead and do it.
But why isn’t the southwest side fully covered? I would also maximize the roof area there.
kati1337 schrieb:
We are also amused by the several tons of saved CO2 listed in the offer.Hopefully, no one ever calculates how many person-years of happily inhaled diesel soot would be equivalent to the ecological footprint of a single sunken cargo ship full of electric cars. The end of the world probably isn’t caused by one of my grandfathers being a master butcher ;-)https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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