ᐅ Terraced Corner House Floor Plan in Development – Any Suggestions for Changes?
Created on: 20 Aug 2022 21:05
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Bauherrin123
Hello dear forum members,
we are building an end-terrace house measuring 7 by 10 m (23 by 33 ft) without a basement. It will have 2 full floors and an attic above. Now the question is which roof we should have. I was shown a house with a 38-degree gable roof without a knee wall, which I found very nice in terms of the feeling of space. Now we have been informed that only a 35-degree gable roof is allowed for us, but with a 30 cm (12 inches) knee wall. What I didn’t realize was that our attic has a maximum height of only 63 cm (25 inches). So the attic space is very low. Now I have no basement and hardly any storage space and I’m a bit frustrated because the building permit application is now in front of me. I initially agreed that this was okay, but I would prefer a 1 m (3 ft) knee wall. The development plan only allows a maximum of 30 cm (12 inches). I’m really unsure what to choose... I don’t want to spend unnecessary money if it doesn’t make a big difference since we have a very large plot and can build storage in the garage, barn, or garden house...
What would you do?
A. 38-degree gable roof or
B. 35-degree gable roof with 30 cm (12 inches) knee wall or
C. 35-degree gable roof with 1 m (3 ft) knee wall, applying to the city office...
We would need to submit a request to the building authority to increase the knee wall to 1 m (3 ft), which would mean more effort, bureaucracy, and delays... I don’t know what it would cost or if it’s even possible, but it’s weighing on my mind because I only read online about people who built houses with a knee wall on the attic. The extra cost of $3,000–$5,000, if that’s roughly the amount, would be worth it to me if it creates nicer rooms and I get a higher attic for storage.
The second problem is that the plot is much lower than street level. We are paying an extra €10,000 to fill the plot with gravel up to street level. Now the house will be built just slightly above street level, so there will be a step at the entrance. There will be a total of 3 terraced houses, and we have the end house. In our row, two finished terraced houses from other builders are already standing next to ours. However, these are built 1 m (3 ft) above street level with 3 or 4 steps higher, so they probably look taller overall. I find this visually unappealing and also, personally, I want our house to be higher.
What are your thoughts on this?
I’m also uploading my floor plan, which I think is finished. I don’t understand how high the ceilings are; can someone tell from the plans? Inside the rooms, how high are they? And generally, do you notice anything about the floor plan?
My building permit application is ready, but I want to change it after all. It doesn’t suit me, and I’m sure it will cause trouble with the company if they have to make changes for us, but I want to be able to decide again and just need some feedback here.
Looking forward to your support!
Best regards
we are building an end-terrace house measuring 7 by 10 m (23 by 33 ft) without a basement. It will have 2 full floors and an attic above. Now the question is which roof we should have. I was shown a house with a 38-degree gable roof without a knee wall, which I found very nice in terms of the feeling of space. Now we have been informed that only a 35-degree gable roof is allowed for us, but with a 30 cm (12 inches) knee wall. What I didn’t realize was that our attic has a maximum height of only 63 cm (25 inches). So the attic space is very low. Now I have no basement and hardly any storage space and I’m a bit frustrated because the building permit application is now in front of me. I initially agreed that this was okay, but I would prefer a 1 m (3 ft) knee wall. The development plan only allows a maximum of 30 cm (12 inches). I’m really unsure what to choose... I don’t want to spend unnecessary money if it doesn’t make a big difference since we have a very large plot and can build storage in the garage, barn, or garden house...
What would you do?
A. 38-degree gable roof or
B. 35-degree gable roof with 30 cm (12 inches) knee wall or
C. 35-degree gable roof with 1 m (3 ft) knee wall, applying to the city office...
We would need to submit a request to the building authority to increase the knee wall to 1 m (3 ft), which would mean more effort, bureaucracy, and delays... I don’t know what it would cost or if it’s even possible, but it’s weighing on my mind because I only read online about people who built houses with a knee wall on the attic. The extra cost of $3,000–$5,000, if that’s roughly the amount, would be worth it to me if it creates nicer rooms and I get a higher attic for storage.
The second problem is that the plot is much lower than street level. We are paying an extra €10,000 to fill the plot with gravel up to street level. Now the house will be built just slightly above street level, so there will be a step at the entrance. There will be a total of 3 terraced houses, and we have the end house. In our row, two finished terraced houses from other builders are already standing next to ours. However, these are built 1 m (3 ft) above street level with 3 or 4 steps higher, so they probably look taller overall. I find this visually unappealing and also, personally, I want our house to be higher.
What are your thoughts on this?
I’m also uploading my floor plan, which I think is finished. I don’t understand how high the ceilings are; can someone tell from the plans? Inside the rooms, how high are they? And generally, do you notice anything about the floor plan?
My building permit application is ready, but I want to change it after all. It doesn’t suit me, and I’m sure it will cause trouble with the company if they have to make changes for us, but I want to be able to decide again and just need some feedback here.
Looking forward to your support!
Best regards
Bauherrin123 schrieb:
The house with a 38-degree roof slope would have an attic space of 110cm (43 inches) in height, which would have been enough for me. Even if the space is 110cm (43 inches) high, what do you plan to store there? You can barely move around. From the folding attic ladder, you can only place items on one side because you can’t access the other side. Does the 110cm (43 inches) already account for insulation and floor construction, or will those reduce the usable height further?
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Bauherrin12323 Aug 2022 23:42kbt09 schrieb:
Could you draw that out? I don’t understand. In a row house, it’s always the houses in the same block/row that are built directly next to each other that matter. The next block is independent for now.So, in the picture, on the far right is House 1, which I think is about 12 m (39 ft) tall. It has a basement. House 2 is not finished yet but will have the same height, also 12 m (39 ft).
Our houses A, B, and C will be attached and are lower in height.
kbt09 schrieb:
Could you draw that out? I don’t understand. In a row house, it’s always the houses in the same block/row that are built directly next to each other that matter. The next block is independent for now.Here is the picture: Houses 1 and 2 belong to a different developer, House 1 is finished, I estimate about 12 m (39 ft) tall; House 2 currently has only the basement and will reach the same height. Our houses A, B, and C will be built at street level and will be only 10 m (33 ft) tall or lower. For this reason, I think that the knee wall height should not be an issue with the city and should be allowed according to the building specifications.
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Bauherrin12323 Aug 2022 23:43hanse987 schrieb:
Even if the unit is 110cm (43 inches) high, what do you want to store there? You can barely move. From the attic ladder, you can only place things on one side because you can't get to the other side. Does the 110cm (43 inches) include insulation and the floor construction already, or will those still be deducted?He is already living there; everything is finished including insulation and flooring, and the height is 110cm (43 inches). My parents have the same height, and there is enough space to store things—more than with 60cm (24 inches).
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Bauherrin12323 Aug 2022 23:47kbt09 schrieb:
According to your acquaintance’s drawing, he should have 11 cm (4.3 inches) more than the 63 cm (25 inches) marked on your plan, namely 125–114 cm (49–45 inches), so his height is 74 cm (29 inches).Yes, that’s what I was told as well, but my acquaintance says he has 110 cm (43 inches). I also saw the attic; it had a reasonable height. The family stores strollers, travel beds, and all sorts of things there. That wouldn’t be possible with 70 cm (27 inches). I’m also wondering how that works. He’s not too unskilled to measure.
But your roof shape is different—the ridge is reversed.
And of course, houses A to C should then have the same knee wall height and roof pitch.
If I understand correctly, houses A to C still need to be approved—right? Is the street on a slope?
And of course, houses A to C should then have the same knee wall height and roof pitch.
If I understand correctly, houses A to C still need to be approved—right? Is the street on a slope?
Bauherrin123 schrieb:Then it might have been built slightly differently from the plans, or the intermediate floor was installed earlier. So the ceiling height at the highest point in the attic might not be 272 cm (107 inches), but maybe only 240 cm (94 inches).
its height is 110
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