ᐅ Preliminary floor plan design for a 220 m² single-family house
Created on: 20 Jun 2017 22:41
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello!
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
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R.Hotzenplotz29 Aug 2017 23:39Looks like it, Yvonne. I already had the feeling that my carefully developed design was being unfairly criticized.
We are very satisfied with what we have here.
We are very satisfied with what we have here.
ypg schrieb:
Beyond a certain budget, a house is no longer simply bought. Once you reach a certain amount, you build it yourself. That's right. If someone prefers a frog-green wall instead of lavender, they would be willing to buy this house and repaint it. But if you want the wall to have a marble finish instead of paint, and the patio door to be recessed into the floor, then you build new. Or if you think you made exactly the wrong decision and the kitchen should be where the study is.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
I can’t see that we focused too much on the exterior and too little on the interior here. So I don’t understand how you come to that conclusion. Oh, then just scroll through this thread: there are plenty of visualizations of the exterior, but almost only floor plans for the interior (except for a handful of sample images showing how the window bands should look).
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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R.Hotzenplotz30 Aug 2017 07:4411ant schrieb:
Oh, then just scroll through this thread: there are plenty of visualizations of the exterior, but almost only floor plans for the interior (except for a handful of example pictures showing how the window bands should look).This is simply because I can better imagine the interior, and apart from the beams in the living room, I was already very satisfied with the 3D visualization of the interior. Saying "too little focus on the interior" would imply that the current design is underdeveloped inside and almost perfected outside. But I don’t see it that way. In any case, the reason can’t just be that we don’t want a patio door from the kitchen or the garage door in question — these points are simply a matter of different opinions and tastes.
@Yvonne: Regarding the topic of garage access to the house again. The idea of possibly designing without internal garage access came up in this discussion:
kbt09 schrieb:
I’m also not a fan of going through the garage to get into the house11ant schrieb:
Combined with the covered corridor between the gate and the front door, it’s especially unnecessary / redundant.R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
That’s simply because I can better visualize it from the inside This naturally explains the imbalance between exterior and interior visualizations. For contributors and readers of the thread, the impression might also arise that the exterior is more important.
Others can only understand the original poster’s intentions as far as they are expressed here. And so, for example, a misunderstanding might persist for two and a half hundred posts—that a new build is desired (specifically with an open flow from the entrance hall into the living room)—until suddenly a hipped roof emerges.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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R.Hotzenplotz31 Aug 2017 01:0311ant schrieb:
That of course explains the imbalance between exterior and interior visualizations. For contributors and readers of the thread, it can naturally also create the impression that the exterior is more important.Probably.
Besides the different number of visualizations, it is also quite possible that the feeling for the interior came faster; that it generally fits now, while the process of finalizing the exterior simply took longer. I think that was the case. For someone else, it might be the other way around.
But be that as it may. In my view, the result looks good, whether with or without the garage door; and that’s what makes us happy.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
...In any case, the reason isn’t that we don’t want a patio door from the kitchen ....
@Yvonne: Regarding the garage access to the house again. The idea of possibly having no direct access from the garage came up here in the discussion:I invented the patio door in the kitchen. Somehow I misread that. For me, it would make a lot of sense because a) there is a small outdoor seating area, b) there is a recess, and c) a large window is drawn there.
To me, a nice big kitchen like the one you’re planning also reflects the joy of cooking, and for me, a direct access to the garden definitely belongs there. But whatever: everyone is different, then you just have frozen herbs.
Regarding the garage door: as also mentioned in your quotes from Kerstin and Ameise, I’m not a fan of forced passages between house and garage. In your case, because of the location near the kitchen and through the pantry, it was close anyway.
You had space in the design, but at some point, the pantry became a problematic factor in the plan, and from then on it became questionable whether that passage should be omitted.
Now the plan shows the cloakroom there, so a direct passage is very logical, also considering that you don’t have to walk through the entire hallway just to get your stuff.
Considering the cost of the house, I would always factor in the $2,000 (no idea if this price is accurate) for the door, and I’d rather cut back on something less useful in or around the house.
<-> just my opinion!
Just a reminder: the house will be beautiful, no doubt. I like clearly structured designs and I like houses like this.
In my opinion, however, the plan took a wrong turn in the middle, and I imagine if you had started fresh again, you could have come up with an equally good and attractive, but more affordable design.
Maybe the basement should have been included in the discussion at some point?
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