ᐅ Floor plan discussion based on the existing thread

K a t j a schrieb:

That will not work like that, sorry. You always have to plan everything together on a slope. Every surface—even if it is just a carport—needs a proper foundation. You also have to comply with the setbacks from the street. This can mean that on a slope you have to build the parking spaces with a basement underneath. That makes a large paved courtyard on a slope somewhat impractical.

The zoning plan for your municipality is publicly available. Many are also online. If there isn’t one, you have to build according to Section 34. You can inquire about the conditions from the local authority. You can also leave everything to the architect, but not knowing usually costs extra.

The architect designed tall cabinets under the sloped ceiling? Very questionable. I would definitely ask to see their qualification.

Okay, I will take this back to the architect once again. At the moment, I only have the draft, so no planned heights yet.

Yes, it seems they drew a cabinet up to the exterior wall there. Of course, that is not possible. We will discuss the walk-in closet topic again.

Are there any other comments on the floor plan for now?
I’m happy to share more once I have additional views or site information.

Regards

K a t j a schrieb:

Where can these details be seen on the plan? Your site plan doesn’t even show the entire lot, and where the driveway is located is unclear. On the lower left side of the plan, there is also a note about a driveway, but it seems that almost the entire front yard is planned to be paved. I find that quite odd and immediately wonder about the floor area ratio?

The driveway is on the north side. The “driveway” on the south side is not meant to be a path, just a way to get a trailer through between the terrace and boundary.

I’m not satisfied with the entrance area. To me, it feels cramped until you get past the staircase. The lack of a coat storage area, and upstairs the dressing room with the strangely slanted wall.

How is the outdoor area planned? Play area for the children? Kitchen garden? Will it be leveled again?

haydee schrieb:

I don’t like the entrance area. To me, it feels cramped until you pass the stairs. The lack of a coat area, the dressing room upstairs with the oddly slanted wall.
How is the outdoor area planned? A play area for the kids? Kitchen garden? Will it need to be leveled again?

Good points. By extending the house by 37cm (15 inches), we want to make the entrance area a bit wider. The dressing room will then also be changed to a rectangular shape.

Unfortunately, we have no details yet regarding the outdoor area and the levels. The plan is to have a courtyard on the north side and on the southeast, at the level of the basement exit, a mostly flat, rather low-lying area for lawn, kitchen garden, etc. (see “lawn area” in the design). This will, of course, mean quite a bit of earthmoving and a lot of material will have to be removed.

K a t j a schrieb:

That won’t work like that, sorry. On a slope, you always need to plan everything together. Every surface – even if it’s just a carport – must have proper foundations. You also need to comply with the required setbacks from the road. This can mean that you have to build basement space under the parking areas on the slope. That makes having a huge paved yard on a slope somewhat impractical.

The zoning plan is available from your municipality. It is accessible to the public. Many are also available online. If there isn’t one, you build according to paragraph 34. You can inquire about the conditions with the authorities here as well. You can also leave everything to the architect, but “not knowing” usually comes at a higher cost.

The architect drew tall cabinets under the sloped ceiling? Very questionable. I’d ask to see their diploma for that.

Hello everyone,

I want to try again to provide you with the information you need. We would really appreciate further comments and your suggestions.
I have now extracted the attached information from the zoning plan; this is all I could get from it.
What other information do you still need?
Are there any other ideas for the floor plans and the arrangement of the planned single-family house?

Best regards

Good morning,

are there no comments, suggestions, ideas, or anything similar regarding our plans?
We would really appreciate if we could still incorporate some input before the design is finalized and the financing is completed.

Kind regards

Dachshund90 schrieb:

Are there no comments / suggestions / ideas or anything else regarding our planning?

As I said, there is not enough information. The crucial questions remain unanswered, which are:

- Budget: Roughly estimating, you have 160sqm (1,722 sq ft) x 3000 = 480K. For the basement with sauna, toilet, and extras, estimated 80sqm (861 sq ft) x 1500 = 120K (probably more), so we’re at 600K for the house alone. You haven’t included the exterior work yet, which you can’t skip on a slope. Not to mention a garage or carport. So I’d easily add another 100K. Plus a bit extra for upgrades, kitchen, connections, fees – 50K. All of this is on the conservative side – still, that brings us to 750K. Is that roughly your planned budget?

What’s missing:
- Setback rules for outbuildings – also towards the street
- Reference point for ridge height
- The depth of the plot is unclear as well. You haven’t marked where it begins. Do the 5.50m (18 ft) and 4.39m (14 ft) count in?
- The floor plan sketch contains errors that a professional architect would never make. That’s quite unrealistic. The exterior walls look far too thin. Roof slopes are not considered.

So far, it seems you prefer not to engage much with your plot and the possibilities. That is fine – a good professional will advise you accordingly, and if you are happy with that, all good. However, as the client, you are ultimately responsible for your own outcome. If something is built poorly because you approved the plans, then that’s your misfortune. Therefore, a minimum level of skepticism is healthy.

With the current information, we can’t really start a proper discussion because it is too contradictory. But once you get the plans back from your architect, you will surely have something to show. Ideally, you will need sections, elevations, site plan, and floor plan with actual wall thicknesses and heights. Then we will be happy to support you.