Hello everyone 🙂
finally, the time has come – the contract with the general contractor is signed, the first draft from the architectural firm has arrived, and so has the disappointment 🙁
I have revised the questionnaire and only included the relevant points:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size – 1461 sqm (15715 sq ft)
Floor area ratio (FAR) – 0.4
Site coverage ratio – 0.4
Building envelope, building line and boundary – 3 m (10 ft) – garage allowed on boundary (see attachment)
Number of floors – 1 full story
Roof shape – 22°-50° (22°-50°) hip or gable roof
Homeowner Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type – bungalow without angle, but (*sigh*) now with a 25° hip roof
Number of residents, age – 2 (29, 35) – 1 child planned
Overnight guests per year – about 10
Open kitchen, kitchen island – semi-open / kitchen separated from dining area by sliding door
Number of dining seats – 6 to 8
Garage – double garage with extension
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things are or are not wanted:
- Desired rooms: 2 children’s rooms, 1 bedroom with adjoining walk-in closet, living/dining area with semi-open kitchen, guest WC with shower, main bathroom with shower and bathtub, utility room.
- Separation of public and private areas
Excerpt from my notes to the architectural firm:
Bedroom:
- Preferably north-facing, no terrace access
- Walk-in closet attached
- Bed including nightstands requires approx. 3.10 m (10 ft) room width and approx. 2.50 m (8 ft) room depth
Children’s Rooms:
- Preferably on south side
- Separate from living area
- Room size between 13 and 15 sqm (140 and 161 sq ft)
Utility Room:
- Space for geothermal system and other technical equipment, washing machine
- Storage space plus room for potential later-installed photovoltaic battery
- Access to garage if possible
Hallway:
- Width approx. 1.75 m (5 ft 9 in) to 1.80 m (6 ft) – at least in the entrance area
- Hallway to private rooms may be narrower
Kitchen:
- Terrace access
- Preferably north-facing
- Separable from dining room by sliding door
- No kitchen island
- Pantry if possible
Living and Dining Area:
- Dining table length approx. 2.20 m (7 ft 3 in)
- Terrace access
Living/dining area and kitchen preferably arranged in an L-shape
That’s about all for our wishes 🙂
House Design
Design by:
- Architect based on the above wishes
What do you especially like? Why? – the separation between public and private areas
What do you dislike? Why? – living/dining and kitchen area is too small for us; utility room door leads outside; walk-in closet is not attached to bedroom; no sliding door between kitchen and dining room
Price estimate: fixed price for construction start 2022 – $252k including various special features (e.g., electric blinds, integrated insect screens, two-tone windows, aluminum front door, underfloor heating with cooling function, 6 LAN outlets, garage slab 6x9 m (20x30 ft), ...)
Personal maximum budget for the house, including equipment: $320k without ancillary building costs
Preferred heating technology: geothermal with deep drilling (already included in the house price)
If you had to give up* on certain details or expansions:
- Could give up: access from garage to utility room (already removed due to specific property), pantry (also removed)
- Cannot give up: walk-in closet, spacious living/kitchen/dining area
Since I am not sure if I am allowed to share the architect’s draft, I have sketched the floor plan on graph paper and would like your opinions.
Exterior walls are 36.5 Poroton (approx. 14 inches), interior walls according to specifications are 11.5 and 17.5 Poroton (approx. 5 and 7 inches).
Furniture measurements (except those mentioned above) are not yet known, as these will be purchased new after moving in.
I once started another thread (gable roof bungalow 145 sqm (1560 sq ft) feasible) – but somehow I’m unable to link it :-/
The images are only available as JPGs 🙁
If I forgot anything or anything is unclear – please tell me 😀
Thanks in advance for your suggestions 🙂
Regards
finally, the time has come – the contract with the general contractor is signed, the first draft from the architectural firm has arrived, and so has the disappointment 🙁
I have revised the questionnaire and only included the relevant points:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size – 1461 sqm (15715 sq ft)
Floor area ratio (FAR) – 0.4
Site coverage ratio – 0.4
Building envelope, building line and boundary – 3 m (10 ft) – garage allowed on boundary (see attachment)
Number of floors – 1 full story
Roof shape – 22°-50° (22°-50°) hip or gable roof
Homeowner Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type – bungalow without angle, but (*sigh*) now with a 25° hip roof
Number of residents, age – 2 (29, 35) – 1 child planned
Overnight guests per year – about 10
Open kitchen, kitchen island – semi-open / kitchen separated from dining area by sliding door
Number of dining seats – 6 to 8
Garage – double garage with extension
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things are or are not wanted:
- Desired rooms: 2 children’s rooms, 1 bedroom with adjoining walk-in closet, living/dining area with semi-open kitchen, guest WC with shower, main bathroom with shower and bathtub, utility room.
- Separation of public and private areas
Excerpt from my notes to the architectural firm:
Bedroom:
- Preferably north-facing, no terrace access
- Walk-in closet attached
- Bed including nightstands requires approx. 3.10 m (10 ft) room width and approx. 2.50 m (8 ft) room depth
Children’s Rooms:
- Preferably on south side
- Separate from living area
- Room size between 13 and 15 sqm (140 and 161 sq ft)
Utility Room:
- Space for geothermal system and other technical equipment, washing machine
- Storage space plus room for potential later-installed photovoltaic battery
- Access to garage if possible
Hallway:
- Width approx. 1.75 m (5 ft 9 in) to 1.80 m (6 ft) – at least in the entrance area
- Hallway to private rooms may be narrower
Kitchen:
- Terrace access
- Preferably north-facing
- Separable from dining room by sliding door
- No kitchen island
- Pantry if possible
Living and Dining Area:
- Dining table length approx. 2.20 m (7 ft 3 in)
- Terrace access
Living/dining area and kitchen preferably arranged in an L-shape
That’s about all for our wishes 🙂
House Design
Design by:
- Architect based on the above wishes
What do you especially like? Why? – the separation between public and private areas
What do you dislike? Why? – living/dining and kitchen area is too small for us; utility room door leads outside; walk-in closet is not attached to bedroom; no sliding door between kitchen and dining room
Price estimate: fixed price for construction start 2022 – $252k including various special features (e.g., electric blinds, integrated insect screens, two-tone windows, aluminum front door, underfloor heating with cooling function, 6 LAN outlets, garage slab 6x9 m (20x30 ft), ...)
Personal maximum budget for the house, including equipment: $320k without ancillary building costs
Preferred heating technology: geothermal with deep drilling (already included in the house price)
If you had to give up* on certain details or expansions:
- Could give up: access from garage to utility room (already removed due to specific property), pantry (also removed)
- Cannot give up: walk-in closet, spacious living/kitchen/dining area
Since I am not sure if I am allowed to share the architect’s draft, I have sketched the floor plan on graph paper and would like your opinions.
Exterior walls are 36.5 Poroton (approx. 14 inches), interior walls according to specifications are 11.5 and 17.5 Poroton (approx. 5 and 7 inches).
Furniture measurements (except those mentioned above) are not yet known, as these will be purchased new after moving in.
I once started another thread (gable roof bungalow 145 sqm (1560 sq ft) feasible) – but somehow I’m unable to link it :-/
The images are only available as JPGs 🙁
If I forgot anything or anything is unclear – please tell me 😀
Thanks in advance for your suggestions 🙂
Regards
If I budget only 20k for the garage (at 6 x 9 meters (20 x 30 feet), that would be inexpensive), you're at 1,657 euros per square meter (about 154 dollars per square foot) including your additional features... since I don’t see any mention of owner-provided work, congratulations on the cheapest house in 2022! 😉
Don’t take this the wrong way, but at least briefly question the scope of work and everything considered "client responsibility" just to be sure.
Does the general contractor really have an architect involved, or more likely a draftsman? Did you specify the room planning yourselves, or did you present your own designs?
Don’t take this the wrong way, but at least briefly question the scope of work and everything considered "client responsibility" just to be sure.
Does the general contractor really have an architect involved, or more likely a draftsman? Did you specify the room planning yourselves, or did you present your own designs?
It shouldn’t be a problem to draw everything to scale on the millimeter paper. You did it correctly with the length and width of the house.
Or is the corridor in the rear area planned to be that wide in the design as well?
If that’s the case but you want the corridor to be smaller, then that will result in completely different room sizes.
Or is the corridor in the rear area planned to be that wide in the design as well?
If that’s the case but you want the corridor to be smaller, then that will result in completely different room sizes.
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hanghaus200030 Apr 2021 12:11If you’re building new, go for realistic wall thicknesses from the start.
Schniebi schrieb:
Hello everyone 🙂 ...
finally it’s happening – contract with the general contractor is signed, the architect’s first draft is here, and also some sobering reality 🙁
I have revised the questionnaire and only included the relevant points:
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size – 1461 m² (15,720 sq ft)
Floor area ratio (FAR) – 0.4
Floor space index (FSI) – 0.4
Building zone, building line and boundary – 3 m (10 ft) – garage allowed on boundary (see attachment)
Number of floors – 1 full story
Roof shape – 22°–50° hipped or gable roof
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type – bungalow without corners, but (*sigh*) now with hipped roof at 25°
Number of occupants, age – 2 (29, 35) – 1 child planned
Annual overnight guests – approx. 10
Open kitchen, cooking island – semi-open / kitchen separated from dining area by sliding door
Number of dining seats – 6 to 8
Garage – double garage with extension
Additional requests / special features / daily routine, also reasons why or why not for certain things:
- Desired rooms: 2 children’s bedrooms, 1 master bedroom with walk-in closet, living/dining area with semi-open kitchen, guest toilet with shower, main bathroom with shower and bathtub, utility room.
- Separation between public areas and sleeping areas
Excerpt from my details sent to the architect:
Master Bedroom:
- preferably north-facing, no terrace access
- walk-in closet attached
- bed including bedside tables needs approx. 3.10 m (10 ft) room width and approx. 2.50 m (8 ft) room depth
Children’s Bedrooms:
- preferably south side
- separated from living area
- size between 13 and 15 m² (140 to 160 sq ft)
Utility Room:
- space for geothermal heating system and other technical equipment, washing machine
- storage space plus room for potential later installation of a photovoltaic battery
- access to garage if possible
Hallway:
- width approx. 1.75 m to 1.80 m (5 ft 9 in to 6 ft), at least in the entrance area
- hallway to private rooms can be narrower
Kitchen:
- terrace access
- preferably north-facing
- separable from dining room by sliding door
- no cooking island
- pantry if possible
Living Area + Dining Room:
- dining table length 2.20 m (7 ft 3 in)
- terrace access
Living/dining area and kitchen preferably arranged in an L-shape
That sums up our wishes 🙂
House Design
Designed by:
- architect based on the above wishes
What do you particularly like and why? – the separation of public and private spaces
What do you dislike and why? – living/dining and kitchen area too small; utility room door leading outside; walk-in closet not attached; no sliding door between kitchen and dining room
Cost estimate: fixed price for construction start 2022 – 252,000 (including several upgrades such as electric blinds, integrated insect screens, two-tone windows, aluminum front door, underfloor heating with cooling function, 6 LAN outlets, garage slab 6x9 m (20x30 ft), etc.)
Personal price limit for the house including upgrades: 320,000 excluding additional construction costs
Preferred heating system: geothermal heat with deep drilling (already included in the house price)
If you had to give up something, what details or expansions would it be?
- Could be omitted: utility room access from garage (already removed due to specific plot), pantry (also removed)
- Cannot be omitted: walk-in closet, spacious living/kitchen/dining area
Since I’m not sure if I’m allowed to share the architect’s plan, I sketched the floor plan on graph paper and would like your opinion.
Outer walls are 36.5 cm (14 in) Poroton, inner walls according to the construction specifications are 11.5 or 17.5 cm (4.5 or 7 in).
Furniture dimensions (besides those mentioned above) are not yet known, as they will be bought new after moving in.
I already started a different thread (gable roof bungalow 145 m² (1,560 sq ft) feasible), but somehow I can’t link to it :-/
I only have the images in JPG format 🙁
If I forgot anything or was unclear – just shout 😀
Thanks already for your suggestions 🙂
Best regards Hello first of all :-) We are also building a 140 m² (1,500 sq ft) bungalow this year plus a 12 m² (130 sq ft) covered terrace on a 1,462 m² (15,730 sq ft) plot. So similar.. Here is our floor plan. It’s probably not perfect for many, but it works for us. We might widen the hallway at the entrance by a few centimeters, still deciding.
Maybe you can use some ideas from it.
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hampshire30 Apr 2021 12:26I can only understand your "disillusionment" if your expectation was that all requirements could be met within the budget.
You can enlarge the living-dining area with a sliding door by moving the utility room toward the north and adding the gained space entirely to the kitchen and dining area. This will turn the rectangular floor plan into a rectangle with a utility room extension. This will cost extra. In this context, I would also rotate the house about 15% clockwise.
Positioning the walk-in closet in front can be done by designing this room as the only access to the bedroom. It would then be at the end of the corridor. Of course, you will lose so much space in the walk-in closet that there won’t be much room left for clothes... Unless you simultaneously change the size and location of the children’s rooms and reduce the living area again.
The plot shape appears to be non-standard. I wouldn’t stick strictly to standard rectangles if the budget allows. What would bother me is that every visitor coming from the garage side would have to pass by the bedroom on their way to the entrance. As nicely separated as the interior zones are for privacy, this is not ideal from the outside.
Schniebi schrieb:
What don’t you like? Why? – Living/dining and kitchen area is too small for us; utility room door leads outside; walk-in closet is not positioned in front; no sliding door between kitchen and dining room
You can enlarge the living-dining area with a sliding door by moving the utility room toward the north and adding the gained space entirely to the kitchen and dining area. This will turn the rectangular floor plan into a rectangle with a utility room extension. This will cost extra. In this context, I would also rotate the house about 15% clockwise.
Positioning the walk-in closet in front can be done by designing this room as the only access to the bedroom. It would then be at the end of the corridor. Of course, you will lose so much space in the walk-in closet that there won’t be much room left for clothes... Unless you simultaneously change the size and location of the children’s rooms and reduce the living area again.
The plot shape appears to be non-standard. I wouldn’t stick strictly to standard rectangles if the budget allows. What would bother me is that every visitor coming from the garage side would have to pass by the bedroom on their way to the entrance. As nicely separated as the interior zones are for privacy, this is not ideal from the outside.
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