ᐅ Floor plan of a 190 m² urban villa on a concrete slab foundation

Created on: 23 Oct 2020 09:43

Hello everyone,

now I’m finally brave enough to share our project in the lion’s den.

You can also follow the development here: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/efh-neubauvorhaben-von-tag-1-an-und-die-planung-beginnt.33766/

Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 750m² (8070 sq ft)
Slope: see sketch
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.3
Total floor space ratio (FSR): 0.6
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3m (10 ft); see sketch
Edge development: yes, garage allowed
Number of parking spaces: 1 garage; 1–2 in front of the house
Number of floors: 2 full stories
Roof type: hipped roof, 22° pitch
Architectural style: urban villa
Orientation: southwest
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height max. 7.50m (24.6 ft), top edge max. 10.0m (32.8 ft) (measured from the lowest point of the natural ground level on the valley side)
Other requirements: none

Site plan of a plot with colored outlines, neighboring plots 1–3 and north arrow.

Owners’ Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: see above
Basement, floors: slab-on-grade; 2 full stories
Number of occupants, age: 32; 28; no children (2 planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: see floor plan draft
Office space: 1 home office workstation
Occasional overnight guests per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction style: rather modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes, as a room divider
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: yes; four-sided panoramic fireplace as a room divider between living area and entrance or dining/kitchen
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: 1 single garage with extended length
Utility garden, greenhouse: not planned so far
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things should or shouldn’t be: open living/dining area as the focal point, TV corner relatively small and therefore cozy, fireplace, office on ground floor facing the garden, straight closed staircase made of solid oak, gallery and open space on the upper floor, children and parents separated on the upper floor, walk-in closet definitely not a walkthrough room; rather some kind of walk-in wardrobe instead.

House Design
Origin of the design: based on "Herb" by Baufritz, own planning in cooperation with general contractor and forum users
What do you especially like? office facing the garden, breakfast and evening terrace, open living and dining area, fireplace as room divider, gallery on upper floor and open space above the entrance area on ground floor, separated areas for children and parents
What do you dislike? Why? everything great
Cost estimate according to planner: 682,000 (house 505,000, additional building costs 59,000, land 69,000, other costs [including kitchen and outdoor facilities] 49,000)
Personal budget limit for the house, incl. fittings: 700,000 All-In
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump with split system and underfloor heating, controlled ventilation system

If you had to give up, which details / expansions
-could you live without: ./.
-could you not do without: ./.

Why is the design as it is now?
Adapted from the "Herb" base by Baufritz according to our needs and the plot. Further development of the floor plan with the general contractor and with the help of forum users. Process duration: 8 months

What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
See "What do you especially like?"

Floor plan of a house: garage, utility room, living room, kitchen, office, hallway, WC, storage room.

Floor plan of the attic: hallway, bedroom, dressing room, bathroom, WC and two children’s rooms.

ypg22 Jun 2021 23:45

#67

DaSch17 schrieb:

Functionality beats appearance here...

The small storage space under the stairs is not a pantry and can barely hold as much as a 600mm (24 inches) tall kitchen cabinet!

DaSch17 schrieb:

I would like to implement that, but wouldn’t the traffic flow between the living room and the dining/kitchen area become too narrow then?

I don’t see any need to include a circulation path through a back room. I see a lot of free space there, which rather makes the living room feel less cozy, as it is not really connected to the seating area.

DaSch17 schrieb:

Shouldn’t there be at least a 1.50m (5 feet) wide passage?

Counter-question: Do you have 1.50m (5 feet) wide hallways?

DaSch17 schrieb:

The open space should offset the perceived narrowness of the entrance area compared to the living room feeling by its height.

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DaSch17 schrieb:

The open space should offset the perceived narrowness of the entrance area compared to the living room feeling by its height, creating visual balance.

You will actually achieve the opposite with height: the higher the ceiling, the narrower the room appears.

DaSch17 schrieb:

Sounds from the living room (TV, music, guests, etc.) cannot directly press toward the children’s rooms.

Then you have to give up the open space completely, because the open space at the front has the same effect.

DaSch17 schrieb:

Additionally, the bedroom should have a garden view, which leads to the arrangement of the master suite as dressing room <-> bathroom <-> bedroom (from top of the plan downwards), which we find very impractical and unattractive.

I didn’t say you should relocate the bedroom from the corner of the house—the logical order from top to bottom on the plan would be bathroom, dressing room, bedroom.

DaSch1723 Jun 2021 00:18

#68

ypg schrieb:

The small closet under the stairs isn’t a pantry and can barely hold as much as a 60cm (24 inches) tall kitchen cabinet!

Depending on how you use the closet, it can actually provide quite a bit of storage space:

Pantry with white shelves, jars, cans, baskets and toaster.

Small white pantry with jars filled with grains, flour and supplies on shelves.

ypg schrieb:

I don’t see any need to include a passageway through a back room.
I see a large open area there, which actually makes the living room feel less cozy, since it’s not really connected to the seating area.

I think we can shift the wall towards the utility room down by a few centimeters (inches). But since the TV wall is already at its minimum width and has to stay as is, the hallway would end up longer as well...

Here’s a furnished living room plan from an older post for clarification, with original dimensions:

Floor plan of a house with garage, WC, hallway, stairs, office, living room, and kitchen.

I think you can clearly see there isn’t much free space left.

I’ll fully furnish the original floor plan over the weekend and share it here again.

ypg schrieb:

Then you’d have to give up on the open space entirely, since the open space in the front has the same effect.

The route through the living room’s open space is much shorter, which would increase noise on the ground floor accordingly.

But fundamentally, you are of course right.

ypg schrieb:

The conceptual sequence from top to bottom on the plan would be bathroom, dressing room, bedroom.

Hmm. We’ve already been through that. My wife doesn’t want a dressing room as a walk-through room.

ypg23 Jun 2021 08:20

#69

DaSch17 schrieb:

Depending on how you use the chamber, it can provide quite a lot of storage space:

These are very nice examples of how to fit a lot into a small area. However, the second picture shows a wider room.
I have to admit that we placed the cloakroom under the higher half of the staircase. There is even a thread about this here 🙂

DaSch17 schrieb:

Since the TV wall already has the minimum width and therefore must remain as is, the hallway would also become correspondingly longer...

No, not a longer hallway or a longer wall there...

DaSch17 schrieb:

I think you can clearly see that there isn’t much free space left.

... yes, free spaces. As I already said: you have free space in the living room and you have free space between living and dining areas. I find the living room too long and narrow because of this. And whether the layout, which looks good in photos or during the open house, is actually ideal here, I question that: the hallway becomes long, creating a deep, cave-like area that opens into the free space.
I don’t know if that might look rather uncomfortable.

DaSch17 schrieb:

Hmm. We already went through this topic. My wife doesn’t want the walk-in closet as a pass-through room.

The same applies to the bedroom, where you look at three doors from the bed. Even if you don’t want the walk-in closet as a pass-through, in my opinion it can be arranged better.

Würfel*23 Jun 2021 11:42

#70

I looked back through the old thread you linked in post #1. We already discussed the issue of the long corridor on the ground floor and the double hallway on the upper floor there, and I had also shown you some visuals and made a new suggestion. If, after almost a year, you are still sticking to your floor plan and have only made minor changes like the garage door and windows, you have most likely thought it through carefully and are satisfied with it. I would therefore not let yourself get unsettled anymore or ask for opinions again.

If you still want to hear mine, I’ll simply share my old sketches again 😉 But your current floor plan will surely also make a very nice house, so don’t worry about that 🙂

ypg23 Jun 2021 11:59

#71

I believe the latest version from @Würfel* suits every room better – even the hallway benefits from the break in the wardrobe.

DaSch1727 Jun 2021 15:25

#72

Würfel* schrieb:

So I wouldn’t let myself get unsettled anymore or keep asking for opinions.

But if you still want to hear mine, I’ll just share my old pictures again 😉 Your current floor plan will definitely make a very nice house, so don’t worry 🙂

Hey @Würfel*! Thanks for your encouraging feedback, and yes, your opinion is always very welcome! Like many others who share their floor plans here, our primary goal is to avoid major planning mistakes. That’s why I shared the floor plan here again.

We have thought a lot about your suggestions over the past months. We have implemented some, which improved the floor plan further. However, some changes would have caused new "problems" or the necessary compromises wouldn’t have been worth it. In the end, tastes are (fortunately) different. What works perfectly for us might be a nightmare for someone else.

We are very grateful for the honest and direct feedback here. Yvonne also provided many great and important ideas. For example, we recently enlarged the utility room at the expense of the living room and are very thankful for that tip! Now we can fit a drying rack and a stroller in the utility room!

Overall, we feel very good about the current solution and are relieved that all rooms can be furnished well without compromises or difficulties in circulation paths.

This probably isn’t the absolute final floor plan yet, but I think it’s very close.

It is important to me/us to share with you the results of your feedback. We benefit from your ideas and suggestions, so you should also see what we made of them.

This weekend we made a few small changes (marked in red) and added all furniture with actual dimensions (except bathrooms). Here is the result:

Floor plan of a house: kitchen with island, dining area, living room, staircase, wardrobe cupboard

Floor plan of an attic with bedroom, bathroom, dressing room, staircase and furniture.

Have a great Sunday everyone! 🙂

ᐅ Floor plan of a 190 m² urban villa on a concrete slab foundation

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