Hello,
our house building plans are gradually becoming more concrete, and I have been moving walls around in the Sweet Home program for weeks. Now we have a first draft that we are quite satisfied with (probably the 3000th version), and I would appreciate your feedback...
We plan to build a two-story urban villa with a hip roof in a §34 designated area.
Size approximately 11.30 x 10.60 m (37.1 x 34.8 ft), living area about 200 sqm (2,153 sq ft)
No basement
West-East orientation
4 persons
Offices: 2 needed, one for family use, one for a home office
Overnight guests per year: 20
Open architecture
Modern construction method
Open kitchen with an island – still undecided
Number of permanent dining seats: 4, expandable to 12
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – no
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – yes
House design
Planner: DIY
Preferred heating system: still unclear, probably underfloor heating with a heat pump (air source)
It would be great to have a pantry accessible from the kitchen, but it seems too small at the moment, right?
Requested: wheelchair-accessible bathroom on the ground floor
We are still open regarding the staircase design. This draft shows a two-angle staircase, but maybe someone has a better idea.
Do you notice anything that might not work well? Looking forward to further suggestions...
our house building plans are gradually becoming more concrete, and I have been moving walls around in the Sweet Home program for weeks. Now we have a first draft that we are quite satisfied with (probably the 3000th version), and I would appreciate your feedback...
We plan to build a two-story urban villa with a hip roof in a §34 designated area.
Size approximately 11.30 x 10.60 m (37.1 x 34.8 ft), living area about 200 sqm (2,153 sq ft)
No basement
West-East orientation
4 persons
Offices: 2 needed, one for family use, one for a home office
Overnight guests per year: 20
Open architecture
Modern construction method
Open kitchen with an island – still undecided
Number of permanent dining seats: 4, expandable to 12
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – no
Balcony, roof terrace – no
Garage, carport – yes
House design
Planner: DIY
Preferred heating system: still unclear, probably underfloor heating with a heat pump (air source)
It would be great to have a pantry accessible from the kitchen, but it seems too small at the moment, right?
Requested: wheelchair-accessible bathroom on the ground floor
We are still open regarding the staircase design. This draft shows a two-angle staircase, but maybe someone has a better idea.
Do you notice anything that might not work well? Looking forward to further suggestions...
Accessible design and 90 cm (36 inches) doors are contradictory. Please plan for 100 cm (40 inches) doors, at least for the rooms that need to be wheelchair accessible (so at least on the ground floor).
Is the bathtub in the children’s bathroom intentionally planned like that? Please also make sure to include enough first aid supplies in the bathroom. When my nieces and nephews take a bath, it’s prime time for chaos, with all their activity and energy... Hopefully, someone has first aid training.
And probably, they won’t be bathing every day, right? Then they’ll be showering. But it’s wishful thinking that the little ones will stay neatly in one corner while doing so.
This means: you can clean that window every day, but it will definitely get sprayed with water. And that corner where the bathtub is will probably be a real challenge when it comes to cleaning.
But wait: THE solution!!! Train the kids to be willing cleaning helpers—they have smaller fingers and can reach into all the corners better! And if they’re properly conditioned, they’ll also clean the window nicely every time after showering or bathing.
With that, my previous concerns become irrelevant. And the scenario described here is entirely realistic. If you manage that, you could actually afford the most expensive architect, because if you figure out how to condition kids like that, you’ll make a fortune—parents everywhere will be lining up!
(In that case, I’ll manage your parenting training school, okay?)
Is the bathtub in the children’s bathroom intentionally planned like that? Please also make sure to include enough first aid supplies in the bathroom. When my nieces and nephews take a bath, it’s prime time for chaos, with all their activity and energy... Hopefully, someone has first aid training.
And probably, they won’t be bathing every day, right? Then they’ll be showering. But it’s wishful thinking that the little ones will stay neatly in one corner while doing so.
This means: you can clean that window every day, but it will definitely get sprayed with water. And that corner where the bathtub is will probably be a real challenge when it comes to cleaning.
But wait: THE solution!!! Train the kids to be willing cleaning helpers—they have smaller fingers and can reach into all the corners better! And if they’re properly conditioned, they’ll also clean the window nicely every time after showering or bathing.
With that, my previous concerns become irrelevant. And the scenario described here is entirely realistic. If you manage that, you could actually afford the most expensive architect, because if you figure out how to condition kids like that, you’ll make a fortune—parents everywhere will be lining up!
(In that case, I’ll manage your parenting training school, okay?)
komet schrieb:
...That’s why it’s just wheelchair accessible...
-The bathtub is only in the children’s bathroom intentionally, ...
...
-In the children’s room, the wall is angled, because otherwise you lose a lot of storage space in the children’s room and gain useless space in the hallway, just to make the door fit
)No, no, no!
Everything is so angled because you have to draw corners without a plan,
just so the rooms can even have a door to the hallway.
I assume my questions will no longer be answered and no site plan will be provided.
If this is your roughly 2000th draft, I have to say a lot of time has unfortunately been wasted.
That’s always very unfortunate—and I’m surprised you didn’t realize yourself after the tenth try that drawing (even with software) and understanding measurements aren’t your strong suits.
A few pencil sketches on graph paper would have provided the same basis for discussion.
...and the insight that a standard house from many builders and home constructors is more functional.
I don’t understand: you don’t have any other expectations than what a townhouse (or city villa) offers you.
So why not choose a production house and just make small modifications there?
Best regards
komet schrieb:
We have looked at plenty of standard floor plans and model homes, but that didn’t help much 😉 I can’t quite understand that, for example. We also designed our floor plan entirely ourselves, except for the exact wall thicknesses and the placement of the windows. And I would say our floor plan is “not bad” (we find it almost perfect for our needs, and no significant criticism was raised here in the forum, even though it was only the first draft and still optimized a bit). We spent a long time working on the floor plan, and I personally spent weeks and months refining it in Sweet Home 3D until it was right. We discarded many ideas, started over several times, and ran through every scenario in our heads to figure out whether this floor plan would function well for daily life—not only now but also later when we have children (we don’t have kids yet), and so on. We looked at what seemed like a thousand floor plans of similar houses (town villas, about 160 m² (1,722 sq ft)) online, visited model homes, and learned what matters and what we like. By studying model floor plans and reading this forum for months, I learned how a sensible room layout looks and what the major mistakes are. It’s a process and doesn’t happen overnight. With your floor plan—no offense—I don’t see that. There are some noticeable planning errors.
You can get a lot more out of a house with 200 m² (2,153 sq ft) than this awkward, impractical floor plan. If this is the best you’ve come up with after a long time and you don’t know how to proceed, you should consider finding a professional planner (either a general contractor or an independent architect) who can take care of it for you. You do not have to design the floor plan yourself! After all, you probably want to live in the house for several decades, and you will be investing a lot of money in this project—so you shouldn’t just build it ANYWAY but try to get the maximum benefit for yourselves. That should be in your best interest.
I just did a quick search on Google Images for town villas of about 200 m² (2,153 sq ft). Take a look, for example, at the “Stadtvilla 211 W” by Mittelstädt-Haus. The house is slightly larger (210 m² (2,260 sq ft)) but has the rooms arranged somewhat like in your self-designed floor plan. I’m not saying this floor plan has to be a perfect fit for you or that it’s flawless, but it could serve as inspiration for what you could improve or how else to do it. This model floor plan lacks a shower on the ground floor and a storage room on the upper floor, for example, but otherwise, it includes everything you want. You can simply leave out the porch and balcony. Child 1 would then be your library. Just a suggestion!
Minimum turning radius for a wheelchair: 1.5 m (5 feet).
Mark 1.5 m (5 feet) circles throughout your floor plan. It simply doesn’t work otherwise.
Door width should be at least 1 m (3 feet 3 inches) to avoid scraped hands, sore elbows, and scratched door frames.
Here are some tips on what to consider.
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It’s pointless if the bathroom works, but the rest of the ground floor does not. For example, check the dimensions of the guest room if it might later be used as a bedroom for a wheelchair user.
No door thresholds, no steps, electrical outlets at switch height, etc.
This also clearly shows the space requirements. Not every wheelchair user can operate their chair independently, and an electric wheelchair generally requires more space since it’s less maneuverable.
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Here you can find functional bathroom layouts.
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Although some of these are quite cramped, especially when assistance with personal hygiene is needed.
I can’t say much about the rest of the layout, but I don’t like it. Everything seems a bit too small.
Mark 1.5 m (5 feet) circles throughout your floor plan. It simply doesn’t work otherwise.
Door width should be at least 1 m (3 feet 3 inches) to avoid scraped hands, sore elbows, and scratched door frames.
Here are some tips on what to consider.
Link removed by moderation: search for Nullbarriere!
It’s pointless if the bathroom works, but the rest of the ground floor does not. For example, check the dimensions of the guest room if it might later be used as a bedroom for a wheelchair user.
No door thresholds, no steps, electrical outlets at switch height, etc.
This also clearly shows the space requirements. Not every wheelchair user can operate their chair independently, and an electric wheelchair generally requires more space since it’s less maneuverable.
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Here you can find functional bathroom layouts.
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Although some of these are quite cramped, especially when assistance with personal hygiene is needed.
I can’t say much about the rest of the layout, but I don’t like it. Everything seems a bit too small.
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