ᐅ Building an End-Terrace House as a Self-Managed Project with a General Contractor
Created on: 27 May 2019 10:48
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Hello everyone,
some of you might have already followed one of my threads about us having to or being allowed to build our end-terrace house on our own responsibility – depending on how you look at it. This means that we are buying an end-terrace plot (215 sqm (2315 sq ft)) in a new development area in the Rhein-Neckar district and will be building on it ourselves – but in coordination with our two terrace neighbors.
The municipality, which sold the plots through a local resident model, ideally wanted applicants to apply as a complete housing group with several families and then build accordingly with a general contractor, construction manager, or architect. Of course, that didn’t really work out, so now there are only individual applicants and also homeowners.
After we were awarded the plot, the addresses of the other terrace neighbors were shared to discuss certain matters, such as roof style, whether or not to have a basement, etc. It was immediately clear that everyone preferred to do their own thing. However, we were still able to agree that the housing group will have a gable roof with a pitch of 35 to 40 degrees (within this 5-degree range).
As the end house, we will build without a basement, while the middle house and the other end house will have basements. This obviously presents a challenge as we would have to make a deep foundation or simply skip it, and the middle house would have to support us, as we will start construction first. The current agreement with the middle house is that we will build a deeper foundation at his expense, as supporting our house later on would be considerably more expensive for him.
We are currently close to signing with the construction manager, the notarization appointment for the plot is at the end of June, and we hope to start construction in the fall of this year. Meanwhile, several other freely planned housing groups are being built around us, which might get in the way with their cranes.
I will document the progress here from time to time – such a self-planned terraced house doesn’t come along very often.
some of you might have already followed one of my threads about us having to or being allowed to build our end-terrace house on our own responsibility – depending on how you look at it. This means that we are buying an end-terrace plot (215 sqm (2315 sq ft)) in a new development area in the Rhein-Neckar district and will be building on it ourselves – but in coordination with our two terrace neighbors.
The municipality, which sold the plots through a local resident model, ideally wanted applicants to apply as a complete housing group with several families and then build accordingly with a general contractor, construction manager, or architect. Of course, that didn’t really work out, so now there are only individual applicants and also homeowners.
After we were awarded the plot, the addresses of the other terrace neighbors were shared to discuss certain matters, such as roof style, whether or not to have a basement, etc. It was immediately clear that everyone preferred to do their own thing. However, we were still able to agree that the housing group will have a gable roof with a pitch of 35 to 40 degrees (within this 5-degree range).
As the end house, we will build without a basement, while the middle house and the other end house will have basements. This obviously presents a challenge as we would have to make a deep foundation or simply skip it, and the middle house would have to support us, as we will start construction first. The current agreement with the middle house is that we will build a deeper foundation at his expense, as supporting our house later on would be considerably more expensive for him.
We are currently close to signing with the construction manager, the notarization appointment for the plot is at the end of June, and we hope to start construction in the fall of this year. Meanwhile, several other freely planned housing groups are being built around us, which might get in the way with their cranes.
I will document the progress here from time to time – such a self-planned terraced house doesn’t come along very often.
Pinkiponk schrieb:
The city assumed common sense and good judgment from the builders, which can’t be assumed for all builders. cschiko schrieb:
However, the community probably should have designated terraced houses with basements and without basements from the start. Such a mix was bound to cause problems. That would have been the minimum, but I had good reason to go further. Even a standard row of townhouses (without the community providing full infrastructure) has far too many interfaces for uncoordinated planning to be justifiable.
Zaba12 schrieb:
Let’s be honest, 11ant, like many others, advised you from the beginning not to build there. Please quote me more precisely. Where exactly did I advise against it? As far as I recall, from the very start I always accompanied every encouragement to the original poster with warnings about the risks posed by naive planning participants and consistently insisted on the rule "[U]one architect per row of houses". Today I know better how much trouble a minor detail can cause, and in future, I will add “no construction start before completion guarantees are provided for the entire row.”
Pinkiponk schrieb:
Probably a dummy question, but I don’t understand what’s wrong with having an extra-thick wall and insulation in a terraced house block. Isn’t more wall and insulation a good thing, especially for soundproofing? Pinkiponk schrieb:
I thought the idea was “more is better” in that regard. Overdoing it is always harmful; there’s a limit to what helps. When a heated room is directly adjacent to another heated room, to quote the late grandpa Willy (who was a civil engineer), insulation there is “as unnecessary as a boil on the butt.”
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I’m really sorry. If he stays living there, he will make your life miserable. Especially considering the background, that mentality often demands a lot for itself. Our immediate neighbors are also of Turkish origin. I can tell you from experience what they think about consideration. There may be others, but unfortunately, they don’t live in our area.
shenja schrieb:
Our immediate neighbors are also of Turkish origin. I can tell you firsthand what they think of consideration. There may be others, but unfortunately, they don't live in our area. In my experience, the Turks of the "first guest worker generation" greatly appreciate German order and, as Her Majesty E2R would say, are "not amused" by their countrymen from the "no consideration for unbelievers" faction. If your "dear neighbors" consistently lack proper behavior, having a conversation with their imam (or uncle) can actually help—both are authorities and fellow believers, so the nonsense of "pretending that rules don’t apply to me as part of my cultural identity" doesn’t hold up. Calling the traditional costume group, on the other hand, is almost like going to a knife fight armed with a pistol (which only sounds better at first).
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Unfortunately, the father, who was easy to talk to, passed away a few years ago.
The wife still lives there with their two adult sons and one grandchild. They are all loud but believe they are great neighbors and appreciate the quiet. I couldn’t help but tell him that it was quiet before they moved in.
They are nice people, I can’t deny that, but they just have a different understanding of quiet at night than the rest.
They are Kurds—would involving an imam be helpful in this case?
Regarding the uncle, he is involved in the nighttime noise as well.
We are probably going to install a waterfall fountain in the garden and an air conditioning unit for the bedroom at some point.
But I’m not afraid of confrontation either.
I just feel sorry for the original poster because I know what neighbors can be like. Ours may be inconsiderate, but at least they are still polite and probably don’t intentionally want to make my life miserable. They just simply don’t care.
The wife still lives there with their two adult sons and one grandchild. They are all loud but believe they are great neighbors and appreciate the quiet. I couldn’t help but tell him that it was quiet before they moved in.
They are nice people, I can’t deny that, but they just have a different understanding of quiet at night than the rest.
They are Kurds—would involving an imam be helpful in this case?
Regarding the uncle, he is involved in the nighttime noise as well.
We are probably going to install a waterfall fountain in the garden and an air conditioning unit for the bedroom at some point.
But I’m not afraid of confrontation either.
I just feel sorry for the original poster because I know what neighbors can be like. Ours may be inconsiderate, but at least they are still polite and probably don’t intentionally want to make my life miserable. They just simply don’t care.
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Pinkiponk12 Aug 2020 18:08shenja schrieb:
They are all noisy, but they believe they are great neighbors and say they enjoy the quiet. I couldn’t help telling him that it was quiet before they moved in.I don’t understand that. How can someone appreciate quietness and still make a lot of noise? A sincere question: Do your neighbors have so little ability to abstract?It is much quieter here than in the apartment where they lived before. That was located on one of the main roads in this city. Now they live on a side street.
They don’t consider themselves loud at all. It’s just that there are always many people here, especially in the evenings, all speaking loudly. Turkish apparently is also a language that tends to be expressed with volume.
They meet here in the evenings to drink tea and smoke shisha. They probably discuss everything under the sun. I don’t understand it, of course.
Also, for example, they don’t ring the doorbell. Arrival is signaled with the car horn, no matter how late, until the person concerned comes out. The car engine often stays running. Other people’s driveways are used for parking... and it goes on like that.
When the father/husband passed away back then, over a period of two to three weeks, 1,500 visitors came to offer their condolences. You can’t imagine what it was like here day and night.
Our neighbors have lived here since the 1960s, the woman still doesn’t speak any German, and they live here as if in the village they came from.
The youngest son is now engaged. There was an engagement party in the garden some time ago, as we learned the next day because he apologized for the noise again. He hasn’t yet met his fiancée; she is still in Turkey. Just for your understanding.
They don’t consider themselves loud at all. It’s just that there are always many people here, especially in the evenings, all speaking loudly. Turkish apparently is also a language that tends to be expressed with volume.
They meet here in the evenings to drink tea and smoke shisha. They probably discuss everything under the sun. I don’t understand it, of course.
Also, for example, they don’t ring the doorbell. Arrival is signaled with the car horn, no matter how late, until the person concerned comes out. The car engine often stays running. Other people’s driveways are used for parking... and it goes on like that.
When the father/husband passed away back then, over a period of two to three weeks, 1,500 visitors came to offer their condolences. You can’t imagine what it was like here day and night.
Our neighbors have lived here since the 1960s, the woman still doesn’t speak any German, and they live here as if in the village they came from.
The youngest son is now engaged. There was an engagement party in the garden some time ago, as we learned the next day because he apologized for the noise again. He hasn’t yet met his fiancée; she is still in Turkey. Just for your understanding.
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