Hello everyone,
We are currently planning the arrangement of our recessed lights—mainly in the shower area of our bathroom.
At the moment, our contract includes 4 recessed lights at our request, but this number can of course be increased or decreased anytime (1 recessed light for concrete ceiling = €70.00).
I have attached our bathroom on the upper floor.
Shower: the full depth to the "toilet wall" is 2.10 m (7 feet), with a width of 1.00 m (3 feet 3 inches). The wall towards the door will be built up three-quarters high, meaning the shower is not fully enclosed and may still get some light since the wall does not reach the ceiling. The toilet wall is half height and has glass above it, so light also comes in here. How many recessed lights would you install in the shower, and how would you arrange them? Are 4 recessed lights really necessary here?
I have also attached our kitchen on the ground floor.
We are planning to add 2 recessed lights above the breakfast bar, plus a normal ceiling light centered in the kitchen. Does this make sense or not? The kitchen is quite long, so we assume that 2 recessed lights above the bar area would improve the lighting.
We are also considering typical recessed lighting along the stairs—see the example image attached.
What do you think about that? Is the main contractor allowed to charge the €70.00 per recessed light here as well, or is it somehow cheaper to install wall-mounted lights? Does this make sense at all, or does anyone have experience with it? Or is it ultimately just a visual highlight that ends up costing a lot?
Otherwise, we are not planning any other recessed lights in the house.
We would appreciate brief feedback on our thoughts 🙂
We are currently planning the arrangement of our recessed lights—mainly in the shower area of our bathroom.
At the moment, our contract includes 4 recessed lights at our request, but this number can of course be increased or decreased anytime (1 recessed light for concrete ceiling = €70.00).
I have attached our bathroom on the upper floor.
Shower: the full depth to the "toilet wall" is 2.10 m (7 feet), with a width of 1.00 m (3 feet 3 inches). The wall towards the door will be built up three-quarters high, meaning the shower is not fully enclosed and may still get some light since the wall does not reach the ceiling. The toilet wall is half height and has glass above it, so light also comes in here. How many recessed lights would you install in the shower, and how would you arrange them? Are 4 recessed lights really necessary here?
I have also attached our kitchen on the ground floor.
We are planning to add 2 recessed lights above the breakfast bar, plus a normal ceiling light centered in the kitchen. Does this make sense or not? The kitchen is quite long, so we assume that 2 recessed lights above the bar area would improve the lighting.
We are also considering typical recessed lighting along the stairs—see the example image attached.
What do you think about that? Is the main contractor allowed to charge the €70.00 per recessed light here as well, or is it somehow cheaper to install wall-mounted lights? Does this make sense at all, or does anyone have experience with it? Or is it ultimately just a visual highlight that ends up costing a lot?
Otherwise, we are not planning any other recessed lights in the house.
We would appreciate brief feedback on our thoughts 🙂
exto1791 schrieb:
Shower: the full depth to the "toilet wall" is 2.10 m (7 ft), width is 1.00 m (3 ft 3 in). The wall towards the door is to be built three-quarters high – so, the shower is not fully enclosed and might get some light since the wall doesn’t extend all the way up. The toilet wall is half-height and has glass above it, letting light in there as well. How many recessed lights would you install in the shower and how would you arrange them? Are really 4 recessed lights necessary here?What other sources of light are there in the bathroom? Four recessed lights just in the shower seems quite a lot ^^ In our walk-in shower (with glass partition) measuring about 1.3 x 1.8 m (4 ft 3 in x 6 ft), I have 2 recessed lights. Make sure the lights aren’t positioned directly above the overhead rain showerhead, otherwise you’ll get shadows.
Just for comparison: in our kids’ bathroom (about 4.5 m² (48 sq ft)) I have 4 recessed lights total plus mirror lighting.
I would have installed 4 units in the bathroom. Of course, this also depends heavily on the type of bulb used. We have 3 units, and our bathroom is a bit smaller.
Personally, I’m not a big fan of the counter-mounted spotlights. Most people use classic pendant lights there. Spotlights within the kitchen, however, can make sense to minimize shadows on the work surface. If you have a light fixture in the middle, you will always cast shadows on the work area when cooking.
In general, spotlights at the stairs don’t provide much additional safety through lighting. Personally, I find it very appealing visually and would do it again, but essentially, it’s just aesthetics for quite a bit of money.
I assume that the 70€ price for your ceiling spotlights covers only the outlet. You will have to buy the bulbs yourself. In the end, it’s about 100-120€ per spotlight if you don’t choose extravagant models. The price for the stair spotlights will be similar, possibly even higher, because the electrician can only come after the stairs are installed. That is usually a tight day’s work, so another trip is likely, depending on coordination with the general contractor.
Depending on your DIY skills and how flexible your general contractor is, a lot of money can be saved on electrical work through self-performance. The final connection will always be done by the electrician.
Edit: I was referring to 4 spotlights for the entire bathroom, not just the shower.
Personally, I’m not a big fan of the counter-mounted spotlights. Most people use classic pendant lights there. Spotlights within the kitchen, however, can make sense to minimize shadows on the work surface. If you have a light fixture in the middle, you will always cast shadows on the work area when cooking.
In general, spotlights at the stairs don’t provide much additional safety through lighting. Personally, I find it very appealing visually and would do it again, but essentially, it’s just aesthetics for quite a bit of money.
I assume that the 70€ price for your ceiling spotlights covers only the outlet. You will have to buy the bulbs yourself. In the end, it’s about 100-120€ per spotlight if you don’t choose extravagant models. The price for the stair spotlights will be similar, possibly even higher, because the electrician can only come after the stairs are installed. That is usually a tight day’s work, so another trip is likely, depending on coordination with the general contractor.
Depending on your DIY skills and how flexible your general contractor is, a lot of money can be saved on electrical work through self-performance. The final connection will always be done by the electrician.
Edit: I was referring to 4 spotlights for the entire bathroom, not just the shower.
Thank you for the great response.
We are actually planning to have recessed spotlights only in the shower area! Surely, having 4 spotlights there would be over the top, right? We just don’t want the shower to feel like a dark hole.
We had a similar idea about the kitchen... We also suspect that the corner behind the sink could be quite dark... So, additional spotlights in the kitchen area might indeed be worth considering – we will give that some thought.
The staircase design really looks amazing... I think we will treat ourselves to that – but we will discuss with our general contractor how much it will cost.
For your information according to our building contract:
4x Halox-P flush-mounted boxes at €65.00 each (sorry, I miscalculated by €5 😀) – so I also assume the light bulbs are not included.
We are actually planning to have recessed spotlights only in the shower area! Surely, having 4 spotlights there would be over the top, right? We just don’t want the shower to feel like a dark hole.
We had a similar idea about the kitchen... We also suspect that the corner behind the sink could be quite dark... So, additional spotlights in the kitchen area might indeed be worth considering – we will give that some thought.
The staircase design really looks amazing... I think we will treat ourselves to that – but we will discuss with our general contractor how much it will cost.
For your information according to our building contract:
4x Halox-P flush-mounted boxes at €65.00 each (sorry, I miscalculated by €5 😀) – so I also assume the light bulbs are not included.
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daniel1985ffo31 Mar 2021 15:44In our two-story villa, every room on the upper floor has 6 recessed spotlights. In the stairwell/hallway, we installed 5 spotlights. All of them are adjustable.
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nordanney31 Mar 2021 15:47exto1791 schrieb:
We are considering installing this typical recessed spotlighting on the stairs – see the example image attached.
What do you think? Is the general contractor allowed to charge €70.00 per spotlight here, or is it somehow cheaper to install the spotlights on the wall instead? Very nice idea. Definitely go for it!
When it comes to pricing, the general contractor can charge whatever they want ;-)
What exactly do you get for the €70 (also applies to ceiling spots)? @danixf already mentioned it. Installing the spotlight in the concrete ceiling is much easier.
exto1791 schrieb:
How many spotlights would you install here in the shower, and how would you arrange them? Are 4 spots really necessary? One with a wide beam angle or two with narrower beam angles.
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