ᐅ Location of a city villa or detached single-family house on a 500 m² rectangular plot

Created on: 17 Jan 2020 18:03

Dear all,

after sharing the floor plans of my possible hamster cage with you in the other thread , here comes the next thread (thanks again for all the constructive suggestions there).
Just so you know, the semi-detached house is not off the table yet, as this plot of land is highly sought after and it’s not clear whether it will work out. But this one would be my favorite.

Now to this plot. For now, I’m mainly concerned with where and roughly how the house should be positioned on this plot.

Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 500 m² (5400 sq ft)
Slope: none
Site coverage ratio: 0.2
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 5 m (16 ft) from the street, 3 m (10 ft) from neighbors
Edge development: allowed for garages and sheds, none existing on the plot
Number of parking spaces: 1-2
Number of floors: 1.5–2.5
Roof shape: no preference
Architectural style: no preference
Orientation: aligned parallel to the street
Maximum heights / limits: ridge height max. 9 m (30 ft)

Below are the site plans I created myself based on the details from the listing.

This is a rough overview of the plot with building boundaries and dimensions.

Site plan: green center outlined by red frame, street names on the left and compass top left.

My question is: where to put the house?
The broker suggests placing it towards the back, since you already have the 5 m (16 ft) setback at the front and would “gain” about 3 m (10 ft) of garden. My partner doesn’t like this because of the visibility from the street. I say: privacy screen! But I also think, a fence too high might create a prison-yard feel.

But even if you follow this suggestion, I wonder if a more square floor plan (-> town villa style) would be better?

Like this, for example:

Floor plan: street on the left, orange buffer zones, green area, central grey building (100 m²).

Then parking space might be tricky, right?

Or upright like this?

Floor plan of a plot with orange buffer zones, green yard and grey building block.

I really want as much of a west-facing view and garden as possible. I tend to be an evening person and that side is less built up, due to the road. So I think more light comes through.
But the narrow floor plan caused lots of problems with the semi-detached house already. Well, here you could build longer instead.

What do you think?

Best regards

Tolentino

kaho67430 Apr 2020 12:55

#193

Tolentino schrieb:

It actually got deeper and wider (+6 m² (65 ft²) of net floor area). I just swallowed the extra cost of 6,500 EUR for now.

*ugh*

Tolentino schrieb:

That’s why my question is whether we should consider floor-to-ceiling windows on the west side?

I wouldn’t go too far with floor-to-ceiling. You want to have some space to place things without having an outside wall visible behind them. But that’s really personal—you’re the only one who can decide.

Tolentino schrieb:

I just can’t quite get used to the idea of always working in the kitchen with my back to the room and the rest of the company.

You can always look out the window. :P
My sister remodeled her house and turned her kitchen into an eat-in kitchen. I think it’s really cozy because you can comfortably sit together and watch each other work.

Tolentino schrieb:

Yes, that’s really a pity. But it was always more of a nice-to-have. In some designs we included it (you also made great suggestions), but it always turned out that there was less storage space for clothes in the end.

I would have vetoed that, but there are often many reasons behind one design or another.

kaho67430 Apr 2020 13:01

#194

Tolentino schrieb:

Hmm, I had thought about that too. But I read somewhere that it’s not ideal to block exterior walls all the way up to the ceiling with a cabinet?

Are you thinking about something like Grandma’s basement kitchen? New houses should be completely dry, otherwise something was done incorrectly. Or do you fear something other than mold?

Tolentino schrieb:

Painting two full cabinets, or do you think it’s enough to replace the tall cabinets with built-in units?
Or just a sideboard/display cabinet that isn’t so deep…

I simply meant creating more space around the door since it’s a high-traffic area that needs room. By the way, I would replace the door with a double sliding door. But that’s probably too expensive. Kitchen planning is a separate forum. It’s best to register there as soon as the house plans are ready.

Tolentino30 Apr 2020 13:03

#195

- Current self-designed layout, open-plan furnished with L-shaped kitchen variant 2:

- Current architect’s design: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Lage-Stadtvilla-oder-efh-auf-500-m2-rechteck.33505/post-398340
- Revised ground floor plan: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Lage-Stadtvilla-oder-efh-auf-500-m2-rechteck.33505/post-398363
- Current self-designed layout, open-plan furnished with peninsula kitchen: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Lage-Stadtvilla-oder-efh-auf-500-m2-rechteck.33505/post-398518
- Current self-designed layout, open-plan furnished with L-shaped kitchen variant 1: https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Lage-Stadtvilla-oder-efh-auf-500-m2-rechteck.33505/post-398716

Open living and dining area with sofa set, dining table, display cabinet, kitchen unit and plants

Pinky030130 Apr 2020 13:03

#196

I prefer the L-shape. It makes the whole space feel more spacious. This way, you can also extend the table when guests come over. The cabinet layout can still be optimized.

Pinky030130 Apr 2020 13:07

#197

kaho674 schrieb:

By the way, I would replace the door with a double sliding door.

A larger door leading to the living area would be really great. If there isn’t enough space for a sliding door, maybe a double-leaf door would work?

Stairs on the ground floor: isn’t there a risk of tripping on the first step when entering? The passage seems narrow to me.

Tolentino30 Apr 2020 13:07

#198

kaho674 schrieb:

Are you talking about a grandma’s basement kitchen or what? New houses should be completely dry, otherwise something was done wrong. Or are you afraid of something else besides mold?

I believe I’ve read that here as well. But if that’s not true, it certainly makes things easier.

kaho674 schrieb:

By the way, I would replace the door with a double sliding door. But that’s probably too expensive again.

A double leaf door has been requested. I’m considering a sliding door, or at least need to look into it. What I’ve seen so far didn’t appeal to me. In theory, you could even go without a door since the entrance is offset anyway.

kaho674 schrieb:

Kitchen planning is a separate forum. It’s best to register there as soon as the house plan is ready.

Okay, I’ll look it up. But this thread is also about the living area... I still find it very interesting and relevant.

Pinky0301 schrieb:

Stairs on the ground floor: don’t you risk tripping on the first step when coming in from the entrance? The passage seems narrow to me.

@kaho674 already pointed that out. Maybe request a rotation of the stairs, if that doesn’t cause tripping on the other side or block the doors upstairs.
However, I already asked about removing those short wall sections (“stub walls”) there. The architect isn’t sure yet if they’re structurally necessary. He would remove them initially. That should relax the space a bit...

ᐅ Location of a city villa or detached single-family house on a 500 m² rectangular plot

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