Hello,
I’ve been following this forum for a while and have already gathered some interesting information. Today, I’d like to kindly ask for your experiences and expertise 🙂
We are a young family and are fortunate to be able to build our own home. The floor plan for our dream house is basically tailored perfectly to our needs, but the access to the pantry/storage room is causing us some headaches.
Our original plan was to hide the entrance within the kitchen cabinetry, so you would enter the pantry through the kitchen units. However, this passage needs to be 80 cm (31 inches) wide; otherwise, we won’t be able to get our freezer in and out. One kitchen builder doesn’t see a problem with this, while another says the door will sag over time and recommended two 40 cm (16 inch) doors instead. Personally, I don’t find that visually appealing or practical, having to open two doors all the time.
Also, I’m not sure if this door—which won’t fully close tight—would let light through or how it would handle possible odors from the yellow bag trash bin. The yellow bag could of course be taken out to the garage, but you have to consider everything, right? 😉
I’ve now tried out a few alternatives: one without a wall projection and with the door at the front, one with a wall projection and the door at the front, and one in the same place as originally planned but with a standard interior door. I’m attaching pictures of the current floor plan and my alternatives made with SweetHome3D. We don’t want an entrance to the pantry from the hallway since groceries have to be carried to the fridge anyway 😉
What do you think would make sense? How have you solved similar issues?
Looking forward to your creative input
Best regards,
Jessica
I’ve been following this forum for a while and have already gathered some interesting information. Today, I’d like to kindly ask for your experiences and expertise 🙂
We are a young family and are fortunate to be able to build our own home. The floor plan for our dream house is basically tailored perfectly to our needs, but the access to the pantry/storage room is causing us some headaches.
Our original plan was to hide the entrance within the kitchen cabinetry, so you would enter the pantry through the kitchen units. However, this passage needs to be 80 cm (31 inches) wide; otherwise, we won’t be able to get our freezer in and out. One kitchen builder doesn’t see a problem with this, while another says the door will sag over time and recommended two 40 cm (16 inch) doors instead. Personally, I don’t find that visually appealing or practical, having to open two doors all the time.
Also, I’m not sure if this door—which won’t fully close tight—would let light through or how it would handle possible odors from the yellow bag trash bin. The yellow bag could of course be taken out to the garage, but you have to consider everything, right? 😉
I’ve now tried out a few alternatives: one without a wall projection and with the door at the front, one with a wall projection and the door at the front, and one in the same place as originally planned but with a standard interior door. I’m attaching pictures of the current floor plan and my alternatives made with SweetHome3D. We don’t want an entrance to the pantry from the hallway since groceries have to be carried to the fridge anyway 😉
What do you think would make sense? How have you solved similar issues?
Looking forward to your creative input
Best regards,
Jessica
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hampshire28 Apr 2021 16:13RotGrün schrieb:
So your solution would be to completely remove the pantry and use the space for the kitchen? That would create a huge room and the kitchen would probably become very expensive. I will think again about what exactly should go in there. I see the pantry as unnecessary for your requirements. The kitchen does not necessarily become much more expensive; I believe that the door solution to the pantry is not cheaper than using the same space differently.
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Myrna_Loy28 Apr 2021 18:19RotGrün schrieb:
The kitchen won’t be built exactly as shown in the floor plan but more like in the 3D visualizations. I think the route from the sink to the stove is quite normal. I’m attaching a draft from a kitchen fitter, which shows it quite well. The two kitchen fitters implemented the kitchen very similarly, except for the entrance to the pantry. The passage is really narrow. 80 cm (31.5 inches)? Scratches from beverage crates are almost inevitable there.
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pagoni202028 Apr 2021 18:24I would do it either as @Steffi33 suggests, meaning the simple solution with a regular door. For example, in our house the pantry door is usually open... Since this room will now be the utility room in our case, a standard door will be installed. Of course, you can implement fancy designs, but in the end, for me it comes down to the cost-benefit ratio, which everyone has to decide for themselves or consider if the money might be better spent elsewhere.
Basically, in your situation I would also lean towards a larger kitchen without a pantry. You would have a lot of space, and if you extend the kitchen cupboards with standard tall cabinets without expensive interiors, or if necessary buy them from a big-box supplier or similar, it will probably not cost much more than the pantry solution with an extra door, walls, plaster, electrical work, etc. — additional costs for the room.
I wouldn’t go for the typical basement chest freezer anyway, but rather a 120cm (2 x 60in) wide side-by-side unit from brands like Bosch, Siemens, etc., or the more expensive Liebherr model, or install individual stainless steel appliances; that can be stylishly arranged and you have everything directly in the kitchen.
Basically, in your situation I would also lean towards a larger kitchen without a pantry. You would have a lot of space, and if you extend the kitchen cupboards with standard tall cabinets without expensive interiors, or if necessary buy them from a big-box supplier or similar, it will probably not cost much more than the pantry solution with an extra door, walls, plaster, electrical work, etc. — additional costs for the room.
I wouldn’t go for the typical basement chest freezer anyway, but rather a 120cm (2 x 60in) wide side-by-side unit from brands like Bosch, Siemens, etc., or the more expensive Liebherr model, or install individual stainless steel appliances; that can be stylishly arranged and you have everything directly in the kitchen.
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Myrna_Loy28 Apr 2021 18:29You also lose a lot of space because of the doors. In the kitchen and the pantry (which can quickly turn into a storage room).
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NatureSys28 Apr 2021 19:14Regarding kitchen costs: All standard cabinets and drawers are relatively affordable. We have a fairly large kitchen (16m² (172 sq ft)). However, it was quite inexpensive because we didn’t need any special units or custom elements anywhere. Friends of ours paid 50% more for a smaller kitchen of the same quality, as they required special cabinets and custom elements throughout.
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[ATTACH alt="grundriss-zugang-von-Küche-in-speis-abstellraum-492413-1.png"]60656[/ATTACH]I find this design quite interesting. My husband isn’t convinced about the idea yet, though, and I need to check if it’s possible to shorten the load-bearing wall that much (the wall between the kitchen and the dining/living area). Naturally, the kitchen will be more expensive if it gets larger. Since we want a ceramic countertop, a bigger work surface will definitely increase costs. I’m also not sure how much savings there would be from having one less wall and window; I still need to find that out. But thank you very much for this suggestion. Sometimes you get stuck in your own way of thinking.Similar topics