Bought a house, estimated the renovation budget plus 10-15% for inevitable extras, and we set aside 5000 EUR for the kitchen!!!!
That’s how it started... at first, I was in a bit of shock, but we still had time. First step: remove all the walls for a new layout—I need space...
Let’s start with the (according to the agent) move-in ready property. The small kitchen, just under 8 square meters (about 86 square feet), had its 1970s pass-through removed. The wall including the kitchen door is gone! The wall next to the cellar stairs is gone too! Actually, the entire slanted wall, nearly 7 meters (23 feet) high, removed completely...
The window had to go as well since we needed a different working height than the standard 90 cm (35 inches). New screed installed, we switched to underfloor heating, all electrical wiring and water pipes are new.
After almost six months, the realization slowly sank in: the kitchen budget will not exceed 5000 EUR, so we had to look for a used kitchen... something special, but very cheap.
The search criteria: within a 100 km (62 miles) radius, up to 1000 EUR, because I still want new appliances.
That’s how it started... at first, I was in a bit of shock, but we still had time. First step: remove all the walls for a new layout—I need space...
Let’s start with the (according to the agent) move-in ready property. The small kitchen, just under 8 square meters (about 86 square feet), had its 1970s pass-through removed. The wall including the kitchen door is gone! The wall next to the cellar stairs is gone too! Actually, the entire slanted wall, nearly 7 meters (23 feet) high, removed completely...
The window had to go as well since we needed a different working height than the standard 90 cm (35 inches). New screed installed, we switched to underfloor heating, all electrical wiring and water pipes are new.
After almost six months, the realization slowly sank in: the kitchen budget will not exceed 5000 EUR, so we had to look for a used kitchen... something special, but very cheap.
The search criteria: within a 100 km (62 miles) radius, up to 1000 EUR, because I still want new appliances.
ypg schrieb:
I obviously mean the area under the stoveOh well...
Top left: cups, top right: glasses
Middle left: recyclable paper, middle right: sweets (which have since been significantly reduced, I simply ate way too many of them )
Bottom left: toast/frozen rolls/cookies and a bit of mess, bottom right: paper towels and some metal tins for cookies and similar items.
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hampshire1 Apr 2019 09:49Your kitchen is a place where I would also enjoy cooking. Very nicely done.
That’s also our consideration. Advantage: Everything is within reach; disadvantage: Everything is at room temperature.
I just hope that the issue won’t occur with the Free Induction cooktop EH801KU12E (or its successor) that we have selected.
You apparently have two Siemens ovens and the Siemens warming drawer. Do they meet your expectations? We have ordered the same or very similar models (CS658GR6, BI630CNS1, HN678G4S6).
Our kitchen delivery is expected in July.
matte1987 schrieb:
We also don’t have the initially desired pantry (as is often requested here). Instead, we have a storage cabinet that is absolutely sufficient for us.
Overall, the kitchen provides so much storage space that we can store not only everything relevant for cooking but also all supplies, including drinks and a large waste sorting system ...
That’s also our consideration. Advantage: Everything is within reach; disadvantage: Everything is at room temperature.
matte1987 schrieb:
I would only choose a different cooktop...
I just hope that the issue won’t occur with the Free Induction cooktop EH801KU12E (or its successor) that we have selected.
You apparently have two Siemens ovens and the Siemens warming drawer. Do they meet your expectations? We have ordered the same or very similar models (CS658GR6, BI630CNS1, HN678G4S6).
Our kitchen delivery is expected in July.
Schlenk-Bär schrieb:
Damn, our garage probably won’t even cost that much.... $50,000 for a kitchen, unbelievable...
I thought budgeting $20,000 for ours meant it was top of the line *pondering*I have neighbors who have spent well into six figures.
Refrigerator $15,000. Countertop $25,000. Some kind of natural stone from the other side of the world, apparently very rare. You only know that because the owner mentions it (and he does); only a specialist could tell by looking, if at all.
Cabinet fronts are solid wood, not veneer. The wood grain runs continuously along a 6-meter (20-foot) long run, all from one tree, no knots, etc. I forgot the exact wood species, but it’s definitely not ordinary.
The carcasses and hardware are built accordingly to support the stone and the heavy fronts.
And so on and so forth. In the end, the price doubled again—the kitchen maker wants to drive a Porsche as well. It’s definitely a luxury category.
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Schlenk-Bär1 Apr 2019 09:56guckuck2 schrieb:
I have neighbors who spent well into six figures.
Refrigerator 15,000€ (about $16,200), countertop 25,000€ (about $27,000). Some kind of natural stone from the other side of the world, probably very rare. Of course, you only know that if the owner mentions it (and he does); only a specialist would recognize it, if at all.
Cabinet doors made of solid real wood, not veneer. The wood grain runs continuously through a 6m (20 ft) long row, so it all comes from one tree, without any knots, etc. I forgot the wood type, but it’s definitely not ordinary.
The carcasses and hardware are built accordingly to support the stone and the heavy doors.
And so on and so forth. In the end, the price doubled again, because the kitchen builder wants to drive a Porsche too. It’s luxury category, after all. That’s perfectly fine. Everyone’s free to choose what they like. I was just really surprised that you can spend that much money on a kitchen at all...
@hampshire Thanks, it's really enjoyable to work in the kitchen. Friends have also mentioned during shared cooking sessions that you notice the kitchen layout quite quickly while working, if you pay attention.
Regarding your questions:
We only have the accessory drawer, so without a warming function. Our budget didn’t allow for more, and we didn’t see a real benefit for us.
In the drawer, we store all the baking sheets, etc., as well as oven mitts and such. Very practical.
The accompanying oven is a steam oven, which we really like. The one on the right is a conventional oven with pyrolysis. We mainly use that for dishes that tend to make the cooking chamber quite dirty.
Overall, we are quite satisfied with the selection and regularly use both ovens at the same time.
I just had a look at your cooktop, and from what I can see, it’s basically the next evolutionary step compared to ours.
If you Google our model, you’ll see the zones marked on the surface. That’s not the case with yours.
According to the description, you can place pots completely freely on yours, so the issue I described probably doesn’t apply to you...
Regarding your questions:
We only have the accessory drawer, so without a warming function. Our budget didn’t allow for more, and we didn’t see a real benefit for us.
In the drawer, we store all the baking sheets, etc., as well as oven mitts and such. Very practical.
The accompanying oven is a steam oven, which we really like. The one on the right is a conventional oven with pyrolysis. We mainly use that for dishes that tend to make the cooking chamber quite dirty.
Overall, we are quite satisfied with the selection and regularly use both ovens at the same time.
I just had a look at your cooktop, and from what I can see, it’s basically the next evolutionary step compared to ours.
If you Google our model, you’ll see the zones marked on the surface. That’s not the case with yours.
According to the description, you can place pots completely freely on yours, so the issue I described probably doesn’t apply to you...
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chand19861 Apr 2019 10:02Hmm... I took a look at how much I would be willing to spend as a frequent cook, with preferred appliances, size, style, and quality. I could easily spend 20,000 (approximately 22,000) and would definitely use it.
However, the food doesn't taste any better than it would coming from a kitchen that costs about a third of that.
Six figures... if I had that kind of money, my dishwasher would be larger, and I would have more space for a vegetable garden. In the end, the kitchen serves two purposes: a workshop for food preparation and a social space. Anyone who feels the need to show off with rare natural stone here has other issues.
However, the food doesn't taste any better than it would coming from a kitchen that costs about a third of that.
Six figures... if I had that kind of money, my dishwasher would be larger, and I would have more space for a vegetable garden. In the end, the kitchen serves two purposes: a workshop for food preparation and a social space. Anyone who feels the need to show off with rare natural stone here has other issues.
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