ᐅ Floor plan for a 160 sqm urban villa – Requesting advice!
Created on: 28 Jan 2019 09:23
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Bauherrin92
Hello everyone,
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
I cannot do without the pantry; if you put a door from there to the kitchen, it just won’t work. It’s best if you just say, “I don’t like that” – done. Otherwise, statements like these only cause confusion since a door to the kitchen wouldn’t actually be an issue.
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
Bay windows and such expensive features are not an option for us. I can’t do without the pantry; if you add a door to the kitchen there, it just won’t work.
Upper floor:
Children’s room not in the south. If you swap it with the bedroom, then the wardrobe won’t work either.It’s probably due to the emergency you mentioned (all the best for that!) that your mind is elsewhere.
The floor plan from @kaho674 is great and basically fixes all the weaknesses of your original layout.
The door to the pantry isn’t a problem either, as @kaho674 has already shown.
I don’t know where you get the idea that the children’s room and bedroom can’t be swapped... of course not a 1:1 swap, you just have to be willing to make some adjustments.
Maybe try to be a bit more open to suggestions? Otherwise, the creative minds here quickly lose interest (I’m not one of them!). If you lack the imagination, it’s better to say so and ask whether the children’s room and bedroom could be swapped, rather than saying it’s impossible. Because that’s nonsense.
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Bauherrin9230 Jan 2019 11:47kaho674 schrieb:
The best thing is to simply say, "I don’t like it" – that’s it. Otherwise, such comments just cause confusion, since the door to the kitchen actually wouldn’t be a problem.
I was referring to the kitchen as it is currently drawn, which looks a bit "chopped up."
In general, I’m worried that if the external dimensions are swapped and the garage is aligned with the house as shown here, we might not get any sunlight in the evening—or only in the kitchen, where we spend the least time. But I could be wrong...
@face26
I actually think the floor plan is quite well done, but I share the concerns I just mentioned.
Yes, I really lack the imagination for this kind of thing; I have no sense for it, even after drawing and measuring everything—I admit that.
EDIT: My husband said the kitchen/dining/living area should not be in one straight line; he prefers this L-shape…
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
I meant the kitchen as it is currently drawn, kind of "choppy".It’s just an example of furnishing (I would say); the kitchen can be arranged in many different ways given its size and shape. You could also place the kitchen along the bottom edge with a corner window, for example. You don’t have to use the two casement windows either; they can be replaced by a large window area, and so on.
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
In general, I’m worried that if the exterior dimensions are swapped and the garage is aligned with the house as shown here, we won’t have any sunlight in the evenings, or only in the kitchen, where we spend the least time. But I could be wrong...I don’t see it that way, but if you want a better idea… try searching online for "sun path diagram" or similar. There are websites where you can enter your property location and get an exact sun path for every time of day and season.
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
I really lack imagination for this kind of thing, I have no feel for it. Even after drawing and measuring everything… I admit that That’s perfectly fine. Just say so, share your concerns, and ask questions instead of dismissing it with "that won’t work." It probably will work; you’re just lacking the imagination right now.
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
I meant the kitchen as it is currently drawn, looking a bit "choppy."?Bauherrin92 schrieb:
In general, I’m worried that if the exterior dimensions are swapped and the garage is aligned with the house like shown here, we won’t get any sunlight in the evening—or only in the kitchen, where we spend the least time. But I might be wrong...So you spend less time in the kitchen—good to know.kaho674 schrieb:
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So you spend less time in the kitchen – good to know.Then the ground floor could almost be “mirrored.”
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