ᐅ Floor plan for a 160 sqm urban villa – Requesting advice!
Created on: 28 Jan 2019 09:23
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Bauherrin92
Hello everyone,
we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!


we are planning to build an urban villa with 160 sqm (1720 sq ft) plus a basement in rural Bavaria. Since we are now in the crucial phase of floor plan design, we would really appreciate your opinions and suggestions for improvements.
The following issues concern us the most:
1. Arrangement of the house and garage on the plot: The garage has been deliberately placed on the west side to create distance from the neighbor. To catch the evening sun, the house has been set back. However, I wonder if this looks "good," as I have never seen such an arrangement before. We are also undecided whether the garage should be detached or attached to the house (possibly with access through the pantry?). On the plans, the garage is at the neighbor’s boundary. There is currently no house there.
2. The cloakroom and dressing room seem too small to comfortably place proper wardrobes and move around freely.
3. In general, I feel the overall design could still be improved, including the arrangement of windows.
Here is the questionnaire:
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) to the street
Edge development: garage yes
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: 2
Roof style: open construction
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type: urban villa, 2 full storeys, hipped roof
Basement, storeys: basement, ground floor, first floor
Number of people, age: two adults, schoolchild, expecting a baby
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor: three bedrooms, spacious living-dining area, separate cloakroom, shower toilet on the ground floor
Office: none
Guest bedrooms per year: none
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4–10 (when guests visit)
Fireplace: yes
Garage, carport: prefabricated double garage
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be included:
- Cloakroom in a niche
- Shower toilet on the ground floor, later for the teenage daughter
- Large children’s rooms with floor-to-ceiling windows facing the garden
- Dressing room in the master bedroom
- Pantry for yellow bags (recycling waste bags), vacuum cleaner, cleaning supplies, pasta stock, etc.
House design
Who made the plan: planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why?
- Basement: fine as is
- Ground floor: large pantry, L-shaped kitchen/living/dining area
- Upper floor: large children’s rooms
What don’t you like? Why?
- Ground floor: layout of toilet and cloakroom
- Upper floor: dressing room and bathroom possibly too small
- detached garage
Preferred heating technology: undecided so far
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades would you skip?
- Could give up: access from garage into the house
- Could not do without: pantry, dressing room, cloakroom
Why has the design turned out as it is now? Our wishes were implemented by the planner
We look forward to your advice!!!
P.S.: The red circle is supposed to indicate north, sorry, it couldn’t be done otherwise!
tumaa schrieb:
I completely agree with you ..... felt the same way. I think it’s nice to be pointed out, but for me it doesn’t belong in this section; if necessary, it could perhaps be moved to the finances section. But as long as the original poster wants to learn something about their floor plan, I don’t see a reason for it, Well, most of those who spend time and mental effort here probably see it a bit differently. Hardly anyone wants to plan castles in the air. If the budget is known, experienced users can already get an idea of where this is heading. Finishing three stories at 26 years old—that’s quite something. And anyone who has to ask what a half-landing staircase costs more... could of course just be very strict cost control, which wouldn’t be bad. But if those extra 800 euros really were a problem, then good night.
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
Yes, all these details are contractually agreed upon. Great, can you be more specific?
When preparing plans, it’s helpful to know the floor-to-ceiling height, etc.
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
Just to say, everything is fixed in the contract, as well as with the bankHuh? Now I’m totally confused...
If everything is already signed... why are we still discussing plans here? I can hardly imagine that a general contractor would create a completely different design for the same prices and conditions... or am I misunderstanding something here?
kaho674 schrieb:
Well, most people who invest time and brainpower here probably see it a bit differently. Hardly anyone wants to plan castles in the air. Once you know the budget, experienced users can usually get a rough idea of where things are headed. Finishing 3 floors at the age of 26 is quite an achievement. And anyone who already has to ask what an additional landing staircase costs... that could of course mean strict cost control, which wouldn’t be a bad thing. But if those extra 800 euros really are a problem, then good luck.Well... I don’t want to be rude, but there is a nice archive where you can always go back to the design later if needed.
… at least it’s not just “air” right away.
If the building volume is already fixed and we are supposed to "focus on the floor plan," does that mean we can only adjust interior walls, window shutters, and the direction of staircases?
If I were to simply believe the information given by the clients, then unfortunately, in this case, it states:
an average slope of about 2.37 m (7 feet 9 inches) between the streets (top street of the plan on the valley side) – meaning I see more than 1.40 m (4 feet 7 inches) within the building plot – and an average cross slope of 77 cm (2 feet 6 inches) (each arrow tip indicates the uphill side). So, I see much more than just a slight slope on the slope.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
kaho674 schrieb:
@11ant Lately, you have been doubting the information provided by the clients more often. Why so suspicious?
If I were to simply believe the information given by the clients, then unfortunately, in this case, it states:
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Bauherrin92 schrieb:
Yes, all these details are contractually documented. Oh man, what a waste of time! Sorry, you could have said that earlier, then no one here would have bothered.
And congratulations on the slope from a slope builder.
I guess this won’t be your last thread here.
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