ᐅ Kitchen & Budget – Quick Assessment Needed!

Created on: 21 Sep 2018 16:23
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Zaba12
Hello everyone,

I would quickly need your assessment on whether the price is reasonable.

The kitchen, including stove, microwave, oven, dishwasher, and sink, is supposed to cost €11,850.

What is not included are the refrigerator, backsplash, and faucet.

Lowest online prices for the appliances compared to the kitchen studio:
- Stove €1,800. Studio price €2,050 including installation = okay
- Dishwasher €560. Studio price €565 including installation = okay
- Oven + microwave €1,120. Studio price €1,200 including installation
- Sink studio price estimated €500-600, since it is a ceramic sink

Total cost for appliances = €4,320-4,420 without refrigerator, backsplash, and faucet.

So my problem is not the electrical appliances.

Therefore, the pure kitchen furniture is supposed to cost about €7,600.

- Brand: Bauformat
- High-gloss lacquered fronts
- Worktop laminate with thick edging
- The island is 2.50 m x 1 m (8.2 ft x 3.3 ft)
- The kitchen run is 3.20 m (10.5 ft)
- High cabinet 1 m x 46 cm (3.3 ft x 18 in)

Attached are the pictures. Are the €7,600 for the kitchen furniture justified?

It’s a small kitchen studio with very good advice.


Modern kitchen: island with cooktop, dark countertop, beige cabinets, window on the right.

Modern kitchen: stainless steel refrigerator on the left, sink in the middle, oven/microwave on the right.

Modern kitchen with island, white cabinets, dark countertop, oven and refrigerator.


But I see so many YouTubers revealing their prices and getting so much more kitchen for the money.
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Zaba12
22 Sep 2018 11:03
aero2016 schrieb:
Where the microwave is now placed, a lift door could just as well be installed.

I don’t think the overall design is very successful.
The counter at the island is also not very practical.
Perceptions vary so much.

Basically, we both want a counter. I actually thought a solid wood block mounted on top, running the full length of the countertop, looked very, very nice visually. Functionally, however, the low height alone was a complete disaster. That’s why we went with this version. But hey, kitchens are like floor plans — they don’t have to please everyone.

It just has to work, and in my view, it does.
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kbt09
22 Sep 2018 11:55
Well... your photo itself shows that the door needs to be opened quite wide.

And then having gaps in a row between the door and the wall that turn into small dirt traps doesn’t seem very practical to me. Such standalone units (the French door isn’t actually shown in the kitchen layout) might be better highlighted or integrated more thoughtfully.

Also, why is a raised bar counter considered better than seating at countertop height? The bar’s support brackets, especially near the cooktop, again create particular dirt traps.
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Zaba12
22 Sep 2018 12:18
It doesn’t necessarily have to be better, but it doesn’t give the feeling of a bar counter. This was the first version of the counter. At 1.88 meters (6 feet 2 inches), it simply felt too low for me. Then I might as well sit at the dining table. Due to the height, I can work better at the counter than standing at the countertop. My wife is 1.54 meters (5 feet 1 inch), so the countertop is hers at 92 cm (36 inches).

Modern kitchen design with central island, base and wall cabinets, sink, and extractor hood.


Thanks to Bibi for the tip—the expensive microwave is now being replaced by a more expensive compact oven with microwave function. If a third person comes along someday, this makes a lot of sense with five people.
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kbt09
22 Sep 2018 12:30
With the differing sizes, it would be necessary to try to place a built-in coffee machine at a practical and ergonomic location.

Because the counter

is not really suitable for working and likely has a work height of about 115 cm (45 inches).

A compact oven with an integrated microwave is best, especially if it also includes a pyrolytic self-cleaning function. This makes it ideal for preparing items like chicken wings that create a lot of mess, which can be easily cleaned afterward through pyrolysis.
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Müllerin
22 Sep 2018 12:33
The refrigerator is cool – but is there also one without that annoying water dispenser?
... we have a side-by-side refrigerator from LG, but I don’t like it anymore. Pizza fits inside, but by now I would prefer drawers in the freezer section, as you can pack them better without anything falling out when you open the door.
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Zaba12
22 Sep 2018 12:39
kbt09 schrieb:
With the different sizes, you would need to try to place a pantry unit in a practical ergonomic location.

Because the counter

is rather unsuitable for working and probably has a working height of about 115 cm (45 inches).

A compact oven with an integrated microwave is best if it also includes pyrolytic self-cleaning. That way, you can easily cook items like chicken wings, which tend to make a lot of mess but can be cleaned very well using pyrolysis.

Working at the counter really only makes sense for me. The pyrolytic cleaning function is of course not available in the compact oven.

EDIT:
Here again is the overall context with the ground floor layout.

Grundriss eines Hauses: Küche, Essen, Wohnen, Diele, Abstellraum, Dusche, Garderobe, Eingang