ᐅ Bungalow with a gable roof, edge development, 8 by 17 meters
Created on: 29 Apr 2018 22:51
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Grit Stephan
Hello,
we have a building plot and everything is still possible.
Of course, we have wishes and ideas.
Just like people are different, we all build our houses differently...
I’m interested in how you would approach having two sides, namely the east and south sides, facing a green area: but with a tree preservation and planting requirement on the south side...
And you want to be part of this garden...
Here are the facts as suggested by the moderation:
Plot size 1159 sqm (12,470 sq ft)
No slope, only a slight incline along a ditch, but it’s on the building boundary anyway. With trees and planting according to the development plan on the long side, where a tree already stands. Building boundary on the long side 6 meters (20 feet). The rest 3 meters (10 feet).
Floor area ratio known only as a percentage: 60% may be built on.
Plot ratio unknown at the moment, definitely ridge height 12 meters (39 feet). Surrounding buildings are mostly one and a half stories, and bungalows are planned. There are practically no restrictions.
Building window, building line and boundary
Edge development, only known after consulting authorities, our plan fits...
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 1 (1.5 floors would also be conceivable)
Roof shape gable roof.
Style simple bungalow
Orientation? See plan.
Maximum heights/restrictions
Other requirements are met.
2 neighbors.
One on the north side and one on the west side, but only on a small section.
The rest of the west side is the access driveway.
Client requirements
We have no particular style preference; for us, the important thing is that we found a nice building plot in this location at all and that we focus more on a reasonable budget, finding an affordable mortgage payment, and being able to live well in the long term.
Household of 4 people, visitors 3-5 (at once) at least 4 weekends per year... We have a caravan that is used as an extra bedroom for us.
An office and workspace would be very advantageous for us as technology and craft enthusiasts.
Sufficient space on a small footprint.
The living area could also be open up to the roof... Or have a ceiling like the other rooms. But no exact idea yet... The structural engineering should be feasible, but it’s not yet decided what budget we want to allocate to that...
Whether conservative or modern... I’d say a healthy mix. In any case, with
an open kitchen, a small kitchen island (not a must) but reasonable storage space in the kitchen. As a mom, I want to be part of the busy life, and I can no longer imagine having a separate kitchen.
A basement is not essential.
Double garage planned. Possibly a carport.
Number of dining seats: 6 definitely, 8 would be great.
A fireplace is planned.
Wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
1. Room layout:
Bedroom on the long side, as that’s the quiet green side. The kitchen and living room should be basically part of the garden.
The kitchen has morning and evening sun.
The entrance is at the front because we decided that a side entrance near the neighbor—for example: getting out of the car and around the corner, behind the house—is too far away for us, and the front facing the street would otherwise only have a window for the utility room...
Terrace location still open. Probably there will be two... The evening sun will come around again.
House design
Who is the plan by:
Idea from the internet, adapted plan created by ourselves.
All windows on the south side are floor-to-ceiling. Two patio doors: one facing east, one to the south off the dining room. Kitchen sink window has a lower window section. Another kitchen window is also floor-to-ceiling.
Other rooms (bathroom, guest WC, office, utility room) standard height.
Oh, and the kitchen island here is probably drawn too large. Actually, it would be 1 meter (3.3 feet) on the sides and 1.5 meters (5 feet) facing the kitchen counter.
What do you particularly like? Why?
Bedroom on a quiet side, no neighbor.
Kitchen and living room basically part of the garden, also a corner without neighbors, facing the green.
What don’t you like? Why?
Storage room too far from the kitchen, but still the best solution... And my plan is to fit as much as possible into the kitchen.
Cost estimate, somewhere between 150,000 and 220,000 (without garage and without outdoor facilities)
Preferred heating technology: not settled yet, we are currently looking into air-source heat pumps.
If you had to give up something, which details/extras
- could you live without:
- could you not live without:
Bedroom, living, and kitchen must face the green side...
Fireplace must be included,
2 children’s rooms,
Bathtub must be included...
I could maybe do without a second patio door? And kitchen layout, I’m still open.
Looking forward to your suggestions and feedback.
I hope for constructive, respectful criticism.
we have a building plot and everything is still possible.
Of course, we have wishes and ideas.
Just like people are different, we all build our houses differently...
I’m interested in how you would approach having two sides, namely the east and south sides, facing a green area: but with a tree preservation and planting requirement on the south side...
And you want to be part of this garden...
Here are the facts as suggested by the moderation:
Plot size 1159 sqm (12,470 sq ft)
No slope, only a slight incline along a ditch, but it’s on the building boundary anyway. With trees and planting according to the development plan on the long side, where a tree already stands. Building boundary on the long side 6 meters (20 feet). The rest 3 meters (10 feet).
Floor area ratio known only as a percentage: 60% may be built on.
Plot ratio unknown at the moment, definitely ridge height 12 meters (39 feet). Surrounding buildings are mostly one and a half stories, and bungalows are planned. There are practically no restrictions.
Building window, building line and boundary
Edge development, only known after consulting authorities, our plan fits...
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 1 (1.5 floors would also be conceivable)
Roof shape gable roof.
Style simple bungalow
Orientation? See plan.
Maximum heights/restrictions
Other requirements are met.
2 neighbors.
One on the north side and one on the west side, but only on a small section.
The rest of the west side is the access driveway.
Client requirements
We have no particular style preference; for us, the important thing is that we found a nice building plot in this location at all and that we focus more on a reasonable budget, finding an affordable mortgage payment, and being able to live well in the long term.
Household of 4 people, visitors 3-5 (at once) at least 4 weekends per year... We have a caravan that is used as an extra bedroom for us.
An office and workspace would be very advantageous for us as technology and craft enthusiasts.
Sufficient space on a small footprint.
The living area could also be open up to the roof... Or have a ceiling like the other rooms. But no exact idea yet... The structural engineering should be feasible, but it’s not yet decided what budget we want to allocate to that...
Whether conservative or modern... I’d say a healthy mix. In any case, with
an open kitchen, a small kitchen island (not a must) but reasonable storage space in the kitchen. As a mom, I want to be part of the busy life, and I can no longer imagine having a separate kitchen.
A basement is not essential.
Double garage planned. Possibly a carport.
Number of dining seats: 6 definitely, 8 would be great.
A fireplace is planned.
Wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
1. Room layout:
Bedroom on the long side, as that’s the quiet green side. The kitchen and living room should be basically part of the garden.
The kitchen has morning and evening sun.
The entrance is at the front because we decided that a side entrance near the neighbor—for example: getting out of the car and around the corner, behind the house—is too far away for us, and the front facing the street would otherwise only have a window for the utility room...
Terrace location still open. Probably there will be two... The evening sun will come around again.
House design
Who is the plan by:
Idea from the internet, adapted plan created by ourselves.
All windows on the south side are floor-to-ceiling. Two patio doors: one facing east, one to the south off the dining room. Kitchen sink window has a lower window section. Another kitchen window is also floor-to-ceiling.
Other rooms (bathroom, guest WC, office, utility room) standard height.
Oh, and the kitchen island here is probably drawn too large. Actually, it would be 1 meter (3.3 feet) on the sides and 1.5 meters (5 feet) facing the kitchen counter.
What do you particularly like? Why?
Bedroom on a quiet side, no neighbor.
Kitchen and living room basically part of the garden, also a corner without neighbors, facing the green.
What don’t you like? Why?
Storage room too far from the kitchen, but still the best solution... And my plan is to fit as much as possible into the kitchen.
Cost estimate, somewhere between 150,000 and 220,000 (without garage and without outdoor facilities)
Preferred heating technology: not settled yet, we are currently looking into air-source heat pumps.
If you had to give up something, which details/extras
- could you live without:
- could you not live without:
Bedroom, living, and kitchen must face the green side...
Fireplace must be included,
2 children’s rooms,
Bathtub must be included...
I could maybe do without a second patio door? And kitchen layout, I’m still open.
Looking forward to your suggestions and feedback.
I hope for constructive, respectful criticism.
Grit, with floor plans, people often take a very rough approach here without considering that they themselves will not be living in it, but the house should suit you.
Yes, you can do it that way. But unfortunately, I also thought of 11 ant’s comment about the railway carriage. Or a Holstein farmhouse, barn door, cowsheds, servant’s quarters, and then the farmhouse apartment at the back.
Try thinking of the design as less long but a bit wider. Take a look at examples from Garant Bau in Stockelsdorf to see how it can be done. You might like the ideas from the company, although you probably can’t build with them down there. We also adopted suggestions from Garant; the boss, Mr. Ramm, is burly but a talented architect, in my opinion.
The problem with bungalows is storage space, so use the entire roof space fully with boards and with enough pitch for standing height. Our roof pitch is 35 degrees, which creates a generously usable attic that we even made accessible for an extra 8,500 with a staircase instead of an attic hatch. I really like it that way.
Regarding the construction cost, yes, it’s doable; you should be able to manage with just under 200. We spent 211, including a garage, all connections, and additional costs. But ours is a bit smaller. Karsten
Yes, you can do it that way. But unfortunately, I also thought of 11 ant’s comment about the railway carriage. Or a Holstein farmhouse, barn door, cowsheds, servant’s quarters, and then the farmhouse apartment at the back.
Try thinking of the design as less long but a bit wider. Take a look at examples from Garant Bau in Stockelsdorf to see how it can be done. You might like the ideas from the company, although you probably can’t build with them down there. We also adopted suggestions from Garant; the boss, Mr. Ramm, is burly but a talented architect, in my opinion.
The problem with bungalows is storage space, so use the entire roof space fully with boards and with enough pitch for standing height. Our roof pitch is 35 degrees, which creates a generously usable attic that we even made accessible for an extra 8,500 with a staircase instead of an attic hatch. I really like it that way.
Regarding the construction cost, yes, it’s doable; you should be able to manage with just under 200. We spent 211, including a garage, all connections, and additional costs. But ours is a bit smaller. Karsten
Nordlys schrieb:
Yes, you can do it that way. But unfortunately, 11ant’s comment about a railway carriage also crossed my mind. Or a Holstein farmhouse, barn door, cowsheds, servant’s room, and then the farmer’s apartment at the back. The advantages of a bungalow are partly offset if you choose a very compact form like this (axis : width ratio 2:1 or more extreme). Then you get rooms arranged like on a chicken perch, almost all facing north or south. North-facing is undesirable, so you extend the ‘perch’ toward the south to make it longer. This tends to become a self-reinforcing effect.
Nordlys schrieb:
Garant Lübeck StoDo took down the website. I can still see it (?)
P.S.: Oh, you mean: unfortunately, only the imprint page is still visible.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
A simple rule of thumb is 2,000 euros per square meter for move-in ready. It can be done cheaper, around 250,000 to 300,000 euros. The Nordlys bungalow was smaller and more expensive than the figures you mentioned. Nordlys built with a very strong focus on cost-efficiency.
Most people here plan for the move-in ready version with at most flooring and walls done by themselves.
Since you didn’t mention that you are doing an unusually large amount of the work yourself,
both 11ant and I assumed you are building ready to occupy.
Most people here plan for the move-in ready version with at most flooring and walls done by themselves.
Since you didn’t mention that you are doing an unusually large amount of the work yourself,
both 11ant and I assumed you are building ready to occupy.
haydee schrieb:
You didn’t mention that you are doing an unusually large amount of work yourself. So both 11ant and I assumed you are building ready for occupancy. Actually, quite the opposite:
Grit Stephan schrieb:
With realistic DIY effort, Under these conditions, in my opinion, you’d have to be a master of all construction tools and have watched every episode of Hobby Workshop and Tool Time.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Grit Stephan30 Apr 2018 21:4511ant schrieb:
That basically has a self-reinforcing effect.? If you can’t defeat your opponent, confuse them.
That’s actually my motto...
I also recognize that the length isn’t ideal, or rather the ratio, but unfortunately, alternative suggestions for my “concerns” are not.
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