ᐅ Bungalow with a gable roof, edge development, 8 by 17 meters
Created on: 29 Apr 2018 22:51
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Grit Stephan
Hello,
we have a building plot and everything is still possible.
Of course, we have wishes and ideas.
Just like people are different, we all build our houses differently...
I’m interested in how you would approach having two sides, namely the east and south sides, facing a green area: but with a tree preservation and planting requirement on the south side...
And you want to be part of this garden...
Here are the facts as suggested by the moderation:
Plot size 1159 sqm (12,470 sq ft)
No slope, only a slight incline along a ditch, but it’s on the building boundary anyway. With trees and planting according to the development plan on the long side, where a tree already stands. Building boundary on the long side 6 meters (20 feet). The rest 3 meters (10 feet).
Floor area ratio known only as a percentage: 60% may be built on.
Plot ratio unknown at the moment, definitely ridge height 12 meters (39 feet). Surrounding buildings are mostly one and a half stories, and bungalows are planned. There are practically no restrictions.
Building window, building line and boundary
Edge development, only known after consulting authorities, our plan fits...
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 1 (1.5 floors would also be conceivable)
Roof shape gable roof.
Style simple bungalow
Orientation? See plan.
Maximum heights/restrictions
Other requirements are met.
2 neighbors.
One on the north side and one on the west side, but only on a small section.
The rest of the west side is the access driveway.
Client requirements
We have no particular style preference; for us, the important thing is that we found a nice building plot in this location at all and that we focus more on a reasonable budget, finding an affordable mortgage payment, and being able to live well in the long term.
Household of 4 people, visitors 3-5 (at once) at least 4 weekends per year... We have a caravan that is used as an extra bedroom for us.
An office and workspace would be very advantageous for us as technology and craft enthusiasts.
Sufficient space on a small footprint.
The living area could also be open up to the roof... Or have a ceiling like the other rooms. But no exact idea yet... The structural engineering should be feasible, but it’s not yet decided what budget we want to allocate to that...
Whether conservative or modern... I’d say a healthy mix. In any case, with
an open kitchen, a small kitchen island (not a must) but reasonable storage space in the kitchen. As a mom, I want to be part of the busy life, and I can no longer imagine having a separate kitchen.
A basement is not essential.
Double garage planned. Possibly a carport.
Number of dining seats: 6 definitely, 8 would be great.
A fireplace is planned.
Wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
1. Room layout:
Bedroom on the long side, as that’s the quiet green side. The kitchen and living room should be basically part of the garden.
The kitchen has morning and evening sun.
The entrance is at the front because we decided that a side entrance near the neighbor—for example: getting out of the car and around the corner, behind the house—is too far away for us, and the front facing the street would otherwise only have a window for the utility room...
Terrace location still open. Probably there will be two... The evening sun will come around again.
House design
Who is the plan by:
Idea from the internet, adapted plan created by ourselves.
All windows on the south side are floor-to-ceiling. Two patio doors: one facing east, one to the south off the dining room. Kitchen sink window has a lower window section. Another kitchen window is also floor-to-ceiling.
Other rooms (bathroom, guest WC, office, utility room) standard height.
Oh, and the kitchen island here is probably drawn too large. Actually, it would be 1 meter (3.3 feet) on the sides and 1.5 meters (5 feet) facing the kitchen counter.
What do you particularly like? Why?
Bedroom on a quiet side, no neighbor.
Kitchen and living room basically part of the garden, also a corner without neighbors, facing the green.
What don’t you like? Why?
Storage room too far from the kitchen, but still the best solution... And my plan is to fit as much as possible into the kitchen.
Cost estimate, somewhere between 150,000 and 220,000 (without garage and without outdoor facilities)
Preferred heating technology: not settled yet, we are currently looking into air-source heat pumps.
If you had to give up something, which details/extras
- could you live without:
- could you not live without:
Bedroom, living, and kitchen must face the green side...
Fireplace must be included,
2 children’s rooms,
Bathtub must be included...
I could maybe do without a second patio door? And kitchen layout, I’m still open.
Looking forward to your suggestions and feedback.
I hope for constructive, respectful criticism.
we have a building plot and everything is still possible.
Of course, we have wishes and ideas.
Just like people are different, we all build our houses differently...
I’m interested in how you would approach having two sides, namely the east and south sides, facing a green area: but with a tree preservation and planting requirement on the south side...
And you want to be part of this garden...
Here are the facts as suggested by the moderation:
Plot size 1159 sqm (12,470 sq ft)
No slope, only a slight incline along a ditch, but it’s on the building boundary anyway. With trees and planting according to the development plan on the long side, where a tree already stands. Building boundary on the long side 6 meters (20 feet). The rest 3 meters (10 feet).
Floor area ratio known only as a percentage: 60% may be built on.
Plot ratio unknown at the moment, definitely ridge height 12 meters (39 feet). Surrounding buildings are mostly one and a half stories, and bungalows are planned. There are practically no restrictions.
Building window, building line and boundary
Edge development, only known after consulting authorities, our plan fits...
Number of parking spaces 3
Number of floors 1 (1.5 floors would also be conceivable)
Roof shape gable roof.
Style simple bungalow
Orientation? See plan.
Maximum heights/restrictions
Other requirements are met.
2 neighbors.
One on the north side and one on the west side, but only on a small section.
The rest of the west side is the access driveway.
Client requirements
We have no particular style preference; for us, the important thing is that we found a nice building plot in this location at all and that we focus more on a reasonable budget, finding an affordable mortgage payment, and being able to live well in the long term.
Household of 4 people, visitors 3-5 (at once) at least 4 weekends per year... We have a caravan that is used as an extra bedroom for us.
An office and workspace would be very advantageous for us as technology and craft enthusiasts.
Sufficient space on a small footprint.
The living area could also be open up to the roof... Or have a ceiling like the other rooms. But no exact idea yet... The structural engineering should be feasible, but it’s not yet decided what budget we want to allocate to that...
Whether conservative or modern... I’d say a healthy mix. In any case, with
an open kitchen, a small kitchen island (not a must) but reasonable storage space in the kitchen. As a mom, I want to be part of the busy life, and I can no longer imagine having a separate kitchen.
A basement is not essential.
Double garage planned. Possibly a carport.
Number of dining seats: 6 definitely, 8 would be great.
A fireplace is planned.
Wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why this or that should or should not be:
1. Room layout:
Bedroom on the long side, as that’s the quiet green side. The kitchen and living room should be basically part of the garden.
The kitchen has morning and evening sun.
The entrance is at the front because we decided that a side entrance near the neighbor—for example: getting out of the car and around the corner, behind the house—is too far away for us, and the front facing the street would otherwise only have a window for the utility room...
Terrace location still open. Probably there will be two... The evening sun will come around again.
House design
Who is the plan by:
Idea from the internet, adapted plan created by ourselves.
All windows on the south side are floor-to-ceiling. Two patio doors: one facing east, one to the south off the dining room. Kitchen sink window has a lower window section. Another kitchen window is also floor-to-ceiling.
Other rooms (bathroom, guest WC, office, utility room) standard height.
Oh, and the kitchen island here is probably drawn too large. Actually, it would be 1 meter (3.3 feet) on the sides and 1.5 meters (5 feet) facing the kitchen counter.
What do you particularly like? Why?
Bedroom on a quiet side, no neighbor.
Kitchen and living room basically part of the garden, also a corner without neighbors, facing the green.
What don’t you like? Why?
Storage room too far from the kitchen, but still the best solution... And my plan is to fit as much as possible into the kitchen.
Cost estimate, somewhere between 150,000 and 220,000 (without garage and without outdoor facilities)
Preferred heating technology: not settled yet, we are currently looking into air-source heat pumps.
If you had to give up something, which details/extras
- could you live without:
- could you not live without:
Bedroom, living, and kitchen must face the green side...
Fireplace must be included,
2 children’s rooms,
Bathtub must be included...
I could maybe do without a second patio door? And kitchen layout, I’m still open.
Looking forward to your suggestions and feedback.
I hope for constructive, respectful criticism.
It’s hardly readable. A detailed site plan showing the street layout and sketches of neighboring houses would be helpful.
Then some measurements with building setback lines on the property. Maybe this is already included in your floor plan; if so, save it as a PDF so it can be zoomed in and read more easily. Is the motorhome parking space supposed to be all the way to the left?
Why is the master bedroom facing southwest... it will be one of the warmest rooms. Is the street really that busy?
Is the ridge direction predetermined like this?
Is there really such a U-shaped sofa? The large room seems to be divided into separate spaces again, all kind of compartmentalized.
You would get the evening sun from the southwest in front of the bedroom... but then it’s a bedroom and shadowed by the garage.
Then some measurements with building setback lines on the property. Maybe this is already included in your floor plan; if so, save it as a PDF so it can be zoomed in and read more easily. Is the motorhome parking space supposed to be all the way to the left?
Why is the master bedroom facing southwest... it will be one of the warmest rooms. Is the street really that busy?
Is the ridge direction predetermined like this?
Is there really such a U-shaped sofa? The large room seems to be divided into separate spaces again, all kind of compartmentalized.
You would get the evening sun from the southwest in front of the bedroom... but then it’s a bedroom and shadowed by the garage.
Grit Stephan30 Apr 2018 09:5011ant schrieb:
April, April
I see you giving up on far more than just a second patio door.
I consider that a misconception. A floor area ratio of "0.6" seems plausible for a rural setting, but hardly as a site coverage ratio. Could the "60%" figure possibly refer to 40% of the plot being excluded from development (due to proximity to a highway, power lines, or something similar)?
The floor plan strikes me as being heavily inspired by train carriages. The building envelope to footprint ratio is very unfavorable here.Due to the previous development and the seller’s original plans, 60% of the plot is allowed to be built on.
I will take another look at the building envelope to footprint ratio.
The calculation is based on three existing quotes, considering a simple floor plan, standard windows, and a gable roof. With realistic self-performed work, including the foundation slab, additional construction costs, and a contingency, we are currently at about 200,000 (without land costs, landscaping, garage, or any approval exemption procedures).
And the train carriage comment mainly refers to the hallway. I understand that, but it is the compromise to accommodate the existing requirements...
Grit Stephan30 Apr 2018 09:52The
The hallway, yes.
But the rest as well?
With an entrance on the side, it would be quite different. But as mentioned, that doesn't fit with other ideas and preferences.
haydee schrieb:
The floor plan feels cramped and dark
The hallway, yes.
But the rest as well?
With an entrance on the side, it would be quite different. But as mentioned, that doesn't fit with other ideas and preferences.
I actually find all the rooms quite dark. Maybe this is also due to the huge sofa or the floor-to-ceiling windows in the children's rooms instead of wide windows with a parapet.
Your comment about becoming part of the garden immediately made me think of large windows with hardly any masonry on the garden side.
Your comment about becoming part of the garden immediately made me think of large windows with hardly any masonry on the garden side.
Grit Stephan30 Apr 2018 10:33kbt09 schrieb:
It’s hardly readable. A detailed site plan showing the street layout and sketches of neighboring houses would be helpful.
Then some measurements including building lines on the plot. Maybe all this is already in your floor plan; if so, save it as a PDF so it can be zoomed in to read more easily. Is that the motorhome parking space on the far left?
Why is the master bedroom facing southwest? It will likely be one of the warmest rooms. Is the street that busy?
Is the ridge orientation fixed like that?
Is there really such a U-shaped sofa? It makes the large room again feel like rooms within a room, all quite separated.
The evening sun would come from the southwest in front of the bedroom, but it’s still a bedroom and shaded by the garage.kbt09 schrieb:
It’s hardly readable. A detailed site plan showing the street layout and sketches of neighboring houses would be helpful.
Then some measurements including building lines on the plot. Maybe all this is already in your floor plan; if so, save it as a PDF so it can be zoomed in to read more easily. Is that the motorhome parking space on the far left?
Why is the master bedroom facing southwest? It will likely be one of the warmest rooms. Is the street that busy?
Is the ridge orientation fixed like that?
Is there really such a U-shaped sofa? It makes the large room again feel like rooms within a room, all quite separated.
The evening sun would come from the southwest in front of the bedroom, but it’s still a bedroom and shaded by the garage.I will prepare something with the plot boundaries and measurements. Coming soon.
Only one neighboring house is currently under construction. The others will be built later this year. I just know that both neighbors are not building directly on the plot boundary with us.
The access road borders only at the entrance.
The driveway is basically only at the 90° corner, almost directly on the yard.
So the sofa can’t be depicted differently, but the size corresponds to our current sofa, just one side shorter and less bulky.
It is planned to be replaced in the next few years anyway.
Yes, that is the motorhome parking space.
Master bedroom:
It ended up there partly because I want the lounge area to face the garden.
Because of the "corner" shape of the plot and building boundaries, the house can’t really be shifted back or downwards. (You’ll see when I provide the measurements.)
I also tried planning an angled bungalow, but I couldn’t really implement my wishes that way.
The ridge orientation is not fixed. (The development plan basically states that the surrounding conditions do not impose any restrictions or requirements.)
In that sense, it really is a dream plot. And all building plots sold quickly for that reason...
And about the master bedroom:
Do you think that with today’s insulation standards and recent summers there will be a noticeable difference in how warm the bedroom gets?
I think you’d have to keep windows/shutters closed around midday anyway.
We are still considering what makes sense regarding the shade on that side and the evening sun.
If you stand at the back of the garden, currently basically walking from the kitchen into the garden, that really is the largest space for a garden.
Due to the ditch along the long side, the plot looks quite large overall, but the flat area without a slope towards the ditch is actually quite narrow...
Possibly something could be changed with ditch backfilling.
But that would need to be checked (whether it’s allowed and what the costs might be)...
Where is the driveway? Where are the neighbors?
Is reforestation planned down south?
At first glance, the hallway looks way too bulky....
$200,000 including additional building costs and contingency for a turnkey finish, not a shell?
I can’t read the dimensions at all. How wide is the hallway?
Is reforestation planned down south?
At first glance, the hallway looks way too bulky....
$200,000 including additional building costs and contingency for a turnkey finish, not a shell?
I can’t read the dimensions at all. How wide is the hallway?
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