ᐅ Single-family home, approximately 160 m², Bauhaus style; first design draft based on our requirements
Created on: 23 Aug 2019 22:03
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Notstrom
Hello everyone,
we've been looking forward to this for a long time, and now we can finally share our first draft floor plan/design for discussion. We’re very curious to hear your feedback.
Those of you who have seen my thread before (https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/efh-Bauhausstil-Wohnfläche-180m-mit-Doppelgarage.31853/) know what to expect, and here comes the gem.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 530m² (about 5,700 sq ft)
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio (Grundflächenzahl): see screenshot
Floor area ratio (Geschossflächenzahl): see screenshot
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries: see screenshot
Edge development: see screenshot
Number of parking spaces: double garage
Number of floors: 2
Roof style: flat roof
Architectural style: Bauhaus
Orientation
Maximum height/limitations
Other requirements
The green highlighted area represents our plot => Parcel 8479
Homeowner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Bauhaus style, flat roof
Basement, floors: Basement yes, ground floor, upper floor
Number of residents, ages: 3 people, potentially 4: 33, 30, 2 years old
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: Initially planned 180 m² (about 1,940 sq ft) on two stories, now reduced to 160 m² (about 1,720 sq ft) after feedback, with the ground floor slightly larger than the upper floor, around 75–85 m² (810–915 sq ft)
Office: Family use or home office? Yes, in the basement (guest room <-> office)
Overnight guests per year: Hard to say, probably about 10 times per year with 2–5 guests each time
Open or closed architecture: Rather open
Conservative or modern construction: Rather modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: Island
Number of dining spaces: 1
Fireplace: Yes
Music/sound system wall: Our soundbar is sufficient
Balcony, roof terrace: Maybe, undecided (Architect’s comment: How often do you really go out for a beer on the balcony/roof terrace instead of the nice terrace on the ground floor?)
Garage, carport: Double garage, possibly single garage with carport
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: Small but nice (a few tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchinis…)
House Design
Planning by: Architect
What do you particularly like? Why? We like the architecture with the two offset rectangles, though we wonder if the extra cost (no price estimate yet) justifies this. We believe it is structurally more challenging than a simple "cube."
What don’t you like? Why? The size of the bedroom/walk-in closet/children’s room. It feels like the bedroom is missing 2–5 m² (about 20–55 sq ft), as is the second children’s room.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: The initial draft was around 550,000 EUR
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 620,000 EUR
Preferred heating technology: Indifferent, but tendency toward heat pump.
If you had to give up something, which details/finishes
- You can give up: the current shape (nice but a cube would also do)
- You cannot give up: space
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Standard design from the planner? This is the second design resulting from last week’s discussion with us, and we find it very successful.
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? Absolutely, plus the idea he had to move the kitchen during development. The guest room has now moved to the basement, allowing more space on the ground floor (beforehand, it felt quite cramped and “squeezed”).
What makes it especially good or bad in your opinion? The architecture
...and now I’ll leave you alone with our house
Upper floor plan:
Basement:
we've been looking forward to this for a long time, and now we can finally share our first draft floor plan/design for discussion. We’re very curious to hear your feedback.
Those of you who have seen my thread before (https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/efh-Bauhausstil-Wohnfläche-180m-mit-Doppelgarage.31853/) know what to expect, and here comes the gem.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 530m² (about 5,700 sq ft)
Slope: No
Site coverage ratio (Grundflächenzahl): see screenshot
Floor area ratio (Geschossflächenzahl): see screenshot
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries: see screenshot
Edge development: see screenshot
Number of parking spaces: double garage
Number of floors: 2
Roof style: flat roof
Architectural style: Bauhaus
Orientation
Maximum height/limitations
Other requirements
The green highlighted area represents our plot => Parcel 8479
Homeowner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: Bauhaus style, flat roof
Basement, floors: Basement yes, ground floor, upper floor
Number of residents, ages: 3 people, potentially 4: 33, 30, 2 years old
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: Initially planned 180 m² (about 1,940 sq ft) on two stories, now reduced to 160 m² (about 1,720 sq ft) after feedback, with the ground floor slightly larger than the upper floor, around 75–85 m² (810–915 sq ft)
Office: Family use or home office? Yes, in the basement (guest room <-> office)
Overnight guests per year: Hard to say, probably about 10 times per year with 2–5 guests each time
Open or closed architecture: Rather open
Conservative or modern construction: Rather modern
Open kitchen, cooking island: Island
Number of dining spaces: 1
Fireplace: Yes
Music/sound system wall: Our soundbar is sufficient
Balcony, roof terrace: Maybe, undecided (Architect’s comment: How often do you really go out for a beer on the balcony/roof terrace instead of the nice terrace on the ground floor?)
Garage, carport: Double garage, possibly single garage with carport
Kitchen garden, greenhouse: Small but nice (a few tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchinis…)
House Design
Planning by: Architect
What do you particularly like? Why? We like the architecture with the two offset rectangles, though we wonder if the extra cost (no price estimate yet) justifies this. We believe it is structurally more challenging than a simple "cube."
What don’t you like? Why? The size of the bedroom/walk-in closet/children’s room. It feels like the bedroom is missing 2–5 m² (about 20–55 sq ft), as is the second children’s room.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: The initial draft was around 550,000 EUR
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 620,000 EUR
Preferred heating technology: Indifferent, but tendency toward heat pump.
If you had to give up something, which details/finishes
- You can give up: the current shape (nice but a cube would also do)
- You cannot give up: space
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Standard design from the planner? This is the second design resulting from last week’s discussion with us, and we find it very successful.
Which wishes were implemented by the architect? Absolutely, plus the idea he had to move the kitchen during development. The guest room has now moved to the basement, allowing more space on the ground floor (beforehand, it felt quite cramped and “squeezed”).
What makes it especially good or bad in your opinion? The architecture
...and now I’ll leave you alone with our house
Upper floor plan:
Basement:
Hello Notstrom,
I have also been reading for a long time without posting and was initially hesitant to share my floor plans. The house has now been finished for almost a year, and I’m very satisfied, even though I didn’t seek any opinions at the time. I was really afraid of getting totally confused. And I think this might be happening to you too, Notstrom. Personally, I find your house quite successful. That’s also why I want to step in here before you change architects. Also because I like Würfel—I have built one myself as well.
To contribute something constructive to the thread: You say the exterior views/windows will come later. I would move away from the classic two-part “standard” windows and instead use vertical or horizontal windows, or even large glass fronts like below. It looks more modern and fits better with the cube design (speaking from experience). I like the separated living area but would make it a bit bigger so the passage to the dining room isn’t so narrow. Shift the staircase slightly to the right side of the plan. Remove the storage room (you have a large basement!), and instead make the wardrobe larger. I wouldn’t open the staircase to the dining room because it’s always noisy upstairs and cooking smells rise up (even with controlled ventilation and extractor hood—just try leaving a lasagna on the table for 20 minutes). Better to have a large glass door, which also brings a lot of light into the hallway. I would probably also move the fireplace to ease the narrow passage. In my opinion, the living area has too few south-facing windows. Corner glazing would look cool there.
Upstairs, I don’t find the dressing-bedroom-bathroom area optimal, although I personally like the bedroom cozy. It’s better to have the dressing room between the child’s room and the bedroom. I would definitely avoid the second bathroom door. It just steals space and only saves opening and closing one door. But then you have to lock one of the two doors. If you move the staircase to the right side of the plan, changes will happen anyway. The children’s rooms can become larger and the wall kink between the two rooms can disappear.
And since it rained for 12 hours straight yesterday in Bavaria, I put my thoughts into your floor plans using Photoshop.
Maybe this will give you some ideas for further discussions with your architect.
P.S. I would absolutely not create a separate entrance from the hallway to the living room. That’s just uncomfortable and again takes away space. The draftsman (we didn’t have an architect) tried to convince me to make a passage because you practically have to walk through the kitchen to get to the living room. I’m very glad we didn’t do that, so I have a large, cozy, sheltered sofa corner.
I have also been reading for a long time without posting and was initially hesitant to share my floor plans. The house has now been finished for almost a year, and I’m very satisfied, even though I didn’t seek any opinions at the time. I was really afraid of getting totally confused. And I think this might be happening to you too, Notstrom. Personally, I find your house quite successful. That’s also why I want to step in here before you change architects. Also because I like Würfel—I have built one myself as well.
To contribute something constructive to the thread: You say the exterior views/windows will come later. I would move away from the classic two-part “standard” windows and instead use vertical or horizontal windows, or even large glass fronts like below. It looks more modern and fits better with the cube design (speaking from experience). I like the separated living area but would make it a bit bigger so the passage to the dining room isn’t so narrow. Shift the staircase slightly to the right side of the plan. Remove the storage room (you have a large basement!), and instead make the wardrobe larger. I wouldn’t open the staircase to the dining room because it’s always noisy upstairs and cooking smells rise up (even with controlled ventilation and extractor hood—just try leaving a lasagna on the table for 20 minutes). Better to have a large glass door, which also brings a lot of light into the hallway. I would probably also move the fireplace to ease the narrow passage. In my opinion, the living area has too few south-facing windows. Corner glazing would look cool there.
Upstairs, I don’t find the dressing-bedroom-bathroom area optimal, although I personally like the bedroom cozy. It’s better to have the dressing room between the child’s room and the bedroom. I would definitely avoid the second bathroom door. It just steals space and only saves opening and closing one door. But then you have to lock one of the two doors. If you move the staircase to the right side of the plan, changes will happen anyway. The children’s rooms can become larger and the wall kink between the two rooms can disappear.
And since it rained for 12 hours straight yesterday in Bavaria, I put my thoughts into your floor plans using Photoshop.
Maybe this will give you some ideas for further discussions with your architect.
P.S. I would absolutely not create a separate entrance from the hallway to the living room. That’s just uncomfortable and again takes away space. The draftsman (we didn’t have an architect) tried to convince me to make a passage because you practically have to walk through the kitchen to get to the living room. I’m very glad we didn’t do that, so I have a large, cozy, sheltered sofa corner.
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j.bautsch9 Sep 2019 14:02I really like your floor plan; there’s not much I would criticize, except maybe the window in the bedroom that isn’t placed symmetrically :P
I would also find a direct access to the living room really unnecessary.
I would also find a direct access to the living room really unnecessary.
Würfel* schrieb:
I’ve also been just reading along for a long time and back then didn’t “dare” to share my floor plans. The house has been finished for nearly a year now, and I’m very happy, even though I didn’t seek any feedback. I was really afraid of getting completely confused. Whether because of or despite that, that’s the question here
Würfel* schrieb:
I worked my thoughts into your floor plans using Photoshop. Although, for simplicity, you probably didn’t adjust the windows, your suggestion
Würfel* schrieb:
I would move away from the classic two-part “standard” windows and rather install vertical or horizontal windows, or even large glass fronts like below. It looks more modern and fits better with the cube shape (speaking from my own experience). I actually like very much. The small strip window with only two segments is – especially with “standard” ceiling heights – a very un-original Bauhaus detail
Würfel* schrieb:
I wouldn’t have the staircase open directly to the dining area because it’s always noisy upstairs and food smells rise up (even with controlled ventilation and extractor hood – just put a lasagna on the table for 20 minutes and see). The kids notice the smell even with headphones on anyway
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Würfel* schrieb:
In my opinion, the living area has too few windows facing south. Corner glazing would look really nice there.There is no need to worry about where the money goes.
No..., everything is nice and should work well. I like your comment.
However, I don’t find the living room very cozy. The sightline to the dining area is too open, and the corner window is in the same line.
11ant schrieb:
Whether because or although, that is the question here You’re right there, probably “because” as well. But regardless of whether the forum likes the floor plan or not, the goal is that the homeowner later lives in it and thinks, “Perfect, I feel comfortable and wouldn’t change anything in hindsight.” Unfortunately, reality is often different (I know from people I know—and most of them had an architect). Someone should start a thread titled “What I would do differently next time”; I’m sure there would be plenty of posts.
11ant schrieb:
Although for simplicity’s sake you probably didn’t adjust the windows, your suggestion Correct, only slightly in the living room, bedroom, and bathroom. I would have to think more about the rest myself.
ypg schrieb:
However, I don’t find the living room cozy. That shows how different views and feelings are. For me, a living room feels cozy when I have solid walls on two sides behind me—so behind the sofa. The view can then look out to the garden or other rooms and still give me a sense of more space. A windowless cave can also feel cozy, but it’s not desirable. What I simply can’t accept, yet keeps happening: placing the sofa in front of floor-to-ceiling windows just to somehow fit the TV. I don’t feel secure at all there, especially when it gets dark or if neighbors or passersby can see inside.
The living room with emergency power in the first floor plan was uncomfortable—two open doorways and windows behind.
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