ᐅ Realistic Cost Estimate: Single-Family Home with Challenging Site Access
Created on: 20 Jan 2023 10:50
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schmeissrein
Hello everyone,
I have been following this forum for a while and first of all, a big thank you to everyone who shares their advice here and sometimes also speaks hard truths. I didn’t originally want to create a new thread but intended to form an opinion based on other discussions. However, you convinced me that this building project is too individual for that. So here is our plan:
- Building a new single-family house in the far north of Germany (Schleswig-Flensburg region).
- Plot size is over 1000sqm (10,764 sq ft).
- Total square meters are not so important as long as the layout works.
- Basement is not planned.
What we would like:
- Open-plan kitchen-living area of at least 36m² (388 sq ft).
- Guest room (at least 10m² / 108 sq ft) and small guest bathroom with shower on the ground floor, so that in old age, with disability, or a broken leg, the ground floor can be used independently and possibly serve as a bedroom.
- Utility room / storage room / pantry with heat pump of at least 8m² (86 sq ft) (KfW 40 standard would be great, of course).
- Upper floor with three rooms (1 office, 1 master bedroom, 1 child’s room) each at least 14m² (151 sq ft) and one bathroom. Our dream would be a “walk-in” (what a silly word – aren’t all showers walk-in?) shower to avoid having to clean those limescale-rusty, annoying shower enclosures.
- We could contribute labor for garden landscaping and painting/wallpapering; otherwise, we would prefer a turnkey build.
As for the house style, regionally typical Frisian houses or captain’s houses (with all the “cute” features like small gables, etc.) are in consideration, or also not completely unimaginative “normal” single-family houses. We are not afraid of Bauhaus-style concrete marvels either, but those tend to be more expensive. In terms of fittings, no “gold-plated faucets” and no smart home – but decent and presentable.
The big BUT: the plot is not connected to utilities, and the distance to the street is about 65m (213 ft), of which 50m (164 ft) is a paved driveway and paved parking area that would have to be dug up (across another property). The connection costs and incidental construction costs worry us quite a bit. Does anyone have experience with such a “mammoth connection” for a relatively small building project? What realistic costs should we expect for both?
We would greatly appreciate any thoughts on this project, thank you very much in advance!
I have been following this forum for a while and first of all, a big thank you to everyone who shares their advice here and sometimes also speaks hard truths. I didn’t originally want to create a new thread but intended to form an opinion based on other discussions. However, you convinced me that this building project is too individual for that. So here is our plan:
- Building a new single-family house in the far north of Germany (Schleswig-Flensburg region).
- Plot size is over 1000sqm (10,764 sq ft).
- Total square meters are not so important as long as the layout works.
- Basement is not planned.
What we would like:
- Open-plan kitchen-living area of at least 36m² (388 sq ft).
- Guest room (at least 10m² / 108 sq ft) and small guest bathroom with shower on the ground floor, so that in old age, with disability, or a broken leg, the ground floor can be used independently and possibly serve as a bedroom.
- Utility room / storage room / pantry with heat pump of at least 8m² (86 sq ft) (KfW 40 standard would be great, of course).
- Upper floor with three rooms (1 office, 1 master bedroom, 1 child’s room) each at least 14m² (151 sq ft) and one bathroom. Our dream would be a “walk-in” (what a silly word – aren’t all showers walk-in?) shower to avoid having to clean those limescale-rusty, annoying shower enclosures.
- We could contribute labor for garden landscaping and painting/wallpapering; otherwise, we would prefer a turnkey build.
As for the house style, regionally typical Frisian houses or captain’s houses (with all the “cute” features like small gables, etc.) are in consideration, or also not completely unimaginative “normal” single-family houses. We are not afraid of Bauhaus-style concrete marvels either, but those tend to be more expensive. In terms of fittings, no “gold-plated faucets” and no smart home – but decent and presentable.
The big BUT: the plot is not connected to utilities, and the distance to the street is about 65m (213 ft), of which 50m (164 ft) is a paved driveway and paved parking area that would have to be dug up (across another property). The connection costs and incidental construction costs worry us quite a bit. Does anyone have experience with such a “mammoth connection” for a relatively small building project? What realistic costs should we expect for both?
We would greatly appreciate any thoughts on this project, thank you very much in advance!
Trees would be my top priority. First of all, there is nothing more beautiful than sitting under a chestnut tree in summer — it’s wonderful. On the other hand, I have seen in the Grumsin Forest that healthy trees with a 1m (3 ft) trunk simply fell over and created 20–30m (65–100 ft) wide gaps. Therefore, I have great respect for “huge trees.” Please mark a circle on your property sketch showing the current canopy and a dashed one for 25 years from now (an additional 10m (33 ft) in diameter). By the way, no one here is angry; those who write want to help or express concerns, so please don’t take anything personally.
schmeissrein schrieb:
First of all: no one here is obligated to help or comment. For my part, I am not required to disclose details that relatives have objected to sharing. However, one can and should at least mention which kinds of additional details remain undisclosed at the request of third parties. Even a understandably confidential detail continues to influence the planning.
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hanghaus20235 Apr 2023 07:31K a t j a schrieb:
Sorry, I haven’t followed everything closely, just a quick question: of the two houses, you are only building one – the one in the back, correct? Yes, it’s the one in the back. I had to scroll back as well.
schmeissrein5 Apr 2023 10:45@Nida35a I received the exact reaction labeled "angry" to my post, so I definitely assumed there was anger involved 😀 That’s okay if someone is annoyed by an original poster, but then I’d rather skip the topic instead of snapping at them if I consider them hopeless anyway. Here is the plan with the trees on it 🙂 We just need to find a reasonable spot between the two.
@hanghaus2023
I made the driveway a bit more rounded and wider; do you think it’s enough space to turn around? We’ll still move the carport slightly north. Right now, I’m mainly concerned about the orientation regarding the cardinal directions.
@K a t j a
Yes, exactly, the captain’s house at the back 🙂
@hanghaus2023
I made the driveway a bit more rounded and wider; do you think it’s enough space to turn around? We’ll still move the carport slightly north. Right now, I’m mainly concerned about the orientation regarding the cardinal directions.
@K a t j a
Yes, exactly, the captain’s house at the back 🙂
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Stefan0015 Apr 2023 12:34How do you drive the cars into the carport? Is it 6 x 9 meters (20 x 30 feet)? In that case, you would definitely need to have the driveway accessible from the narrow side.
Then there is the question of the setback distances. It looks to me like it is less than 3 meters (10 feet) from the neighboring property. Is it allowed to fall short of the setback requirements, or would a full boundary construction (i.e., directly on the property line) be necessary?
(I vaguely recall someone telling me that it’s either exactly on the boundary or complies with setback rules. But unfortunately, I can’t verify or justify this.)
Then there is the question of the setback distances. It looks to me like it is less than 3 meters (10 feet) from the neighboring property. Is it allowed to fall short of the setback requirements, or would a full boundary construction (i.e., directly on the property line) be necessary?
(I vaguely recall someone telling me that it’s either exactly on the boundary or complies with setback rules. But unfortunately, I can’t verify or justify this.)
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