ᐅ Realistic Cost Estimate: Single-Family Home with Challenging Site Access
Created on: 20 Jan 2023 10:50
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schmeissrein
Hello everyone,
I have been following this forum for a while and first of all, a big thank you to everyone who shares their advice here and sometimes also speaks hard truths. I didn’t originally want to create a new thread but intended to form an opinion based on other discussions. However, you convinced me that this building project is too individual for that. So here is our plan:
- Building a new single-family house in the far north of Germany (Schleswig-Flensburg region).
- Plot size is over 1000sqm (10,764 sq ft).
- Total square meters are not so important as long as the layout works.
- Basement is not planned.
What we would like:
- Open-plan kitchen-living area of at least 36m² (388 sq ft).
- Guest room (at least 10m² / 108 sq ft) and small guest bathroom with shower on the ground floor, so that in old age, with disability, or a broken leg, the ground floor can be used independently and possibly serve as a bedroom.
- Utility room / storage room / pantry with heat pump of at least 8m² (86 sq ft) (KfW 40 standard would be great, of course).
- Upper floor with three rooms (1 office, 1 master bedroom, 1 child’s room) each at least 14m² (151 sq ft) and one bathroom. Our dream would be a “walk-in” (what a silly word – aren’t all showers walk-in?) shower to avoid having to clean those limescale-rusty, annoying shower enclosures.
- We could contribute labor for garden landscaping and painting/wallpapering; otherwise, we would prefer a turnkey build.
As for the house style, regionally typical Frisian houses or captain’s houses (with all the “cute” features like small gables, etc.) are in consideration, or also not completely unimaginative “normal” single-family houses. We are not afraid of Bauhaus-style concrete marvels either, but those tend to be more expensive. In terms of fittings, no “gold-plated faucets” and no smart home – but decent and presentable.
The big BUT: the plot is not connected to utilities, and the distance to the street is about 65m (213 ft), of which 50m (164 ft) is a paved driveway and paved parking area that would have to be dug up (across another property). The connection costs and incidental construction costs worry us quite a bit. Does anyone have experience with such a “mammoth connection” for a relatively small building project? What realistic costs should we expect for both?
We would greatly appreciate any thoughts on this project, thank you very much in advance!
I have been following this forum for a while and first of all, a big thank you to everyone who shares their advice here and sometimes also speaks hard truths. I didn’t originally want to create a new thread but intended to form an opinion based on other discussions. However, you convinced me that this building project is too individual for that. So here is our plan:
- Building a new single-family house in the far north of Germany (Schleswig-Flensburg region).
- Plot size is over 1000sqm (10,764 sq ft).
- Total square meters are not so important as long as the layout works.
- Basement is not planned.
What we would like:
- Open-plan kitchen-living area of at least 36m² (388 sq ft).
- Guest room (at least 10m² / 108 sq ft) and small guest bathroom with shower on the ground floor, so that in old age, with disability, or a broken leg, the ground floor can be used independently and possibly serve as a bedroom.
- Utility room / storage room / pantry with heat pump of at least 8m² (86 sq ft) (KfW 40 standard would be great, of course).
- Upper floor with three rooms (1 office, 1 master bedroom, 1 child’s room) each at least 14m² (151 sq ft) and one bathroom. Our dream would be a “walk-in” (what a silly word – aren’t all showers walk-in?) shower to avoid having to clean those limescale-rusty, annoying shower enclosures.
- We could contribute labor for garden landscaping and painting/wallpapering; otherwise, we would prefer a turnkey build.
As for the house style, regionally typical Frisian houses or captain’s houses (with all the “cute” features like small gables, etc.) are in consideration, or also not completely unimaginative “normal” single-family houses. We are not afraid of Bauhaus-style concrete marvels either, but those tend to be more expensive. In terms of fittings, no “gold-plated faucets” and no smart home – but decent and presentable.
The big BUT: the plot is not connected to utilities, and the distance to the street is about 65m (213 ft), of which 50m (164 ft) is a paved driveway and paved parking area that would have to be dug up (across another property). The connection costs and incidental construction costs worry us quite a bit. Does anyone have experience with such a “mammoth connection” for a relatively small building project? What realistic costs should we expect for both?
We would greatly appreciate any thoughts on this project, thank you very much in advance!
schmeissrein schrieb:
We have estimated €80,000 for the site development, and the assumed €40,000 is already our share.
That doesn’t sound fair to me. The joint site development covers up to the building partner, but the section beyond that is solely your responsibility. So it can never be a fifty-fifty split. That’s a recipe for conflict.
schmeissrein27 Apr 2023 16:11xMisterDx schrieb:
What else can be said? You won’t manage with 400,000 EUR. But just go ahead, it has been said often enough. This is the offer from our construction company, not a basic package, but after including our requests and with buffers for some items we don’t even want (satellite dish, smart home systems, etc.). So we have to work with this, right?
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Yes, that is the plan. We made other concessions for this, and it was settled without dispute that this is how we will proceed.
schmeissrein schrieb:
Oh yes, right, hopefully we already had our initial needs analysis for that.I don’t recommend anything that has already become obsolete or pointless. Visualization often acts like a turbo boost.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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schmeissrein schrieb:
Yes, that’s the idea. We made other compromises for it, and it’s been clearly agreed without any dispute that we will do it that way.Then you’re lucky. That’s great for you. 🙂 I would definitely get that in writing. Even if it’s your favorite brother or a kind aunt. Once construction starts and the money starts disappearing like butter in the sun, it’s good if no one can change the agreement anymore.
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xMisterDx27 Apr 2023 20:35schmeissrein schrieb:
This is the quote from our construction company—not a basic package, but based on our requests and including buffers for some items we don’t even want (satellite dish, smart home features, etc.). We have to work with this somehow, right? And I say, plan for an additional 10%, better 15%, contingency. If you don’t believe me, fine...
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WilderSueden27 Apr 2023 22:05schmeissrein schrieb:
We’re taking our furniture with us and don’t need anything big and new for now. How many rooms and how many square meters (square feet) do you have currently? Probably significantly less than in the house. It just adds up quickly when you have more rooms and space.
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