Hello dear forum members,
as mentioned in the introduction thread, here is the current status of our house planning.
The plot is located in the second row and is accessible via the courtyard of the front house (shared driveway).
Currently, there are existing buildings on the plot that need to be demolished.
We have already had a few planning discussions with construction companies, and honestly, I have to say I am shocked by their “professionalism.” We have now specifically selected companies where consultation takes place with architects and not, for example, a trained cook (no joke, that actually happened!). In addition, we are already annoyed by the question: “What do you want to build? A shell bungalow or a single-family house?” When we say: “Let’s work out the floor plan step by step and see which shape and roof pitch result, then we can still decide the official house type,” we only get strange looks. There were no independent ideas tailored to the plot... When asking what they would recommend, we just get a questioning look. I have to say, I expected more, but maybe it is normal that you have to bring the initial idea for the floor plan yourself...
Due to the current situation, further appointments with the construction companies are difficult to arrange. So we are using the time to plan ourselves. After tapping into your collective intelligence in the first step, we will then send our draft to the companies including the issues we still see. They will then have the chance to optimize and price our draft for the next consultation.
For us, the heart of the house is the ground floor; the upper floor follows from the ground floor plan (room layout, bathroom above utility room, windows, etc.). The upper floor is located on the exterior walls of the ground floor to the right (north) and bottom (east) of the plan, while to the left (south) and top (west) it is limited to the “main rectangle” or recessed by 1.5m (roughly 5 feet).
Attached you will find the completed questionnaire. Unanswered questions I have not included anymore.
We are very curious about your opinion!
Many thanks in advance.
Ypsi aus NI
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size approx. 700 sqm
Floor area ratio (FAR) 0.3
Site coverage ratio 0.3
Building window, building line and boundary 3m (10 feet) from the neighbor’s boundary
Number of floors 1 full story
open development
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type (Mediterranean) urban villa
Basement, floors 1.5 floors
Number of occupants, age 2 people + planned children
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor GF = 130-140 sqm (1400-1500 sq ft), UF = 50-60 sqm (540-650 sq ft)
Open or closed architecture open
Conservative or modern construction modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island kitchen island
Number of dining seats 6-8
Fireplace wood stove
Balcony, roof terrace possibly roof terrace (flat roof on both volumes)
Garage, carport double garage
House Design
Planned by: Do-it-Yourself
What do you like in particular? Why? Shape fits well into the plot, living area is somewhat separated, kitchen and dining table as central element
What do you dislike? Why? Is the staircase suitable? Is the entrance spacious enough? Can the private rooms on the ground floor be arranged this way?
Preferred heating technology: heat pump
Why did the design develop this way?
We consider the plot relatively narrow. Normally, a rectangular house shape would make sense, using the full width of the plot. But then you lose the best side (south). The floor plan was developed according to “form follows function” and we really like it now (I mean the L-shape, not necessarily the individual room layout).
An interesting idea is not to realize the two wings on the upper floor with a hip roof, but instead to have a flat roof to possibly create one or two roof terraces.
The original wish was for a bungalow, but we realized that it consumes too much floor space. A good compromise for us is to have the master bedroom and master bathroom on the ground floor, and the children’s rooms plus office upstairs.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Are there fundamental planning mistakes we have overlooked so far?
as mentioned in the introduction thread, here is the current status of our house planning.
The plot is located in the second row and is accessible via the courtyard of the front house (shared driveway).
Currently, there are existing buildings on the plot that need to be demolished.
We have already had a few planning discussions with construction companies, and honestly, I have to say I am shocked by their “professionalism.” We have now specifically selected companies where consultation takes place with architects and not, for example, a trained cook (no joke, that actually happened!). In addition, we are already annoyed by the question: “What do you want to build? A shell bungalow or a single-family house?” When we say: “Let’s work out the floor plan step by step and see which shape and roof pitch result, then we can still decide the official house type,” we only get strange looks. There were no independent ideas tailored to the plot... When asking what they would recommend, we just get a questioning look. I have to say, I expected more, but maybe it is normal that you have to bring the initial idea for the floor plan yourself...
Due to the current situation, further appointments with the construction companies are difficult to arrange. So we are using the time to plan ourselves. After tapping into your collective intelligence in the first step, we will then send our draft to the companies including the issues we still see. They will then have the chance to optimize and price our draft for the next consultation.
For us, the heart of the house is the ground floor; the upper floor follows from the ground floor plan (room layout, bathroom above utility room, windows, etc.). The upper floor is located on the exterior walls of the ground floor to the right (north) and bottom (east) of the plan, while to the left (south) and top (west) it is limited to the “main rectangle” or recessed by 1.5m (roughly 5 feet).
Attached you will find the completed questionnaire. Unanswered questions I have not included anymore.
We are very curious about your opinion!
Many thanks in advance.
Ypsi aus NI
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size approx. 700 sqm
Floor area ratio (FAR) 0.3
Site coverage ratio 0.3
Building window, building line and boundary 3m (10 feet) from the neighbor’s boundary
Number of floors 1 full story
open development
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type (Mediterranean) urban villa
Basement, floors 1.5 floors
Number of occupants, age 2 people + planned children
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor GF = 130-140 sqm (1400-1500 sq ft), UF = 50-60 sqm (540-650 sq ft)
Open or closed architecture open
Conservative or modern construction modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island kitchen island
Number of dining seats 6-8
Fireplace wood stove
Balcony, roof terrace possibly roof terrace (flat roof on both volumes)
Garage, carport double garage
House Design
Planned by: Do-it-Yourself
What do you like in particular? Why? Shape fits well into the plot, living area is somewhat separated, kitchen and dining table as central element
What do you dislike? Why? Is the staircase suitable? Is the entrance spacious enough? Can the private rooms on the ground floor be arranged this way?
Preferred heating technology: heat pump
Why did the design develop this way?
We consider the plot relatively narrow. Normally, a rectangular house shape would make sense, using the full width of the plot. But then you lose the best side (south). The floor plan was developed according to “form follows function” and we really like it now (I mean the L-shape, not necessarily the individual room layout).
An interesting idea is not to realize the two wings on the upper floor with a hip roof, but instead to have a flat roof to possibly create one or two roof terraces.
The original wish was for a bungalow, but we realized that it consumes too much floor space. A good compromise for us is to have the master bedroom and master bathroom on the ground floor, and the children’s rooms plus office upstairs.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Are there fundamental planning mistakes we have overlooked so far?
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Ypsi aus NI23 Mar 2020 11:15@matte1987
Thanks for the idea! We had also considered access to the walk-in closet behind the kitchen units. But then the kitchen units wouldn’t be parallel anymore. Plus, we would constantly have to carry dirty laundry through the kitchen, which is a definite no-go in this forum!
The kitchen island was even planned with only 100cm (40 inches) depth. But I thought the same: such a long and narrow island probably wouldn’t look good!
We might be able to enlarge the kitchen area, especially by widening it, and reduce the TV area.
Thanks for the idea! We had also considered access to the walk-in closet behind the kitchen units. But then the kitchen units wouldn’t be parallel anymore. Plus, we would constantly have to carry dirty laundry through the kitchen, which is a definite no-go in this forum!
The kitchen island was even planned with only 100cm (40 inches) depth. But I thought the same: such a long and narrow island probably wouldn’t look good!
We might be able to enlarge the kitchen area, especially by widening it, and reduce the TV area.
Y
Ypsi aus NI23 Mar 2020 11:20Matthew03 schrieb:
Then you are simply too early for such a detailed floor plan!?!I thought the same after reading the recent posts. We’re still at the very beginning!
Overnight guests = none
Children = planning for 2, in 1 to 2 years
Home office = currently once a week, both on separate days, likely more in the future.
M
Matthew0323 Mar 2020 11:23...and the most important question, after asking five times, is still being ignored = currently no longer interested.
I also can’t quite imagine that driving comfortably into the garage will be easy. The 90-degree turn won’t be that simple, right? Why don’t you just place the garage at the end of the driveway? Right now, it blocks your east side; then it would only affect the north side.
Perhaps consider moving away from the L-shape and going for a rectangle instead? Are there any dimensions available for the plot?
Edit: Found them, 20m x 35m (66ft x 115ft).
Are two garage parking spaces a must?
Perhaps consider moving away from the L-shape and going for a rectangle instead? Are there any dimensions available for the plot?
Edit: Found them, 20m x 35m (66ft x 115ft).
Are two garage parking spaces a must?
Y
Ypsi aus NI23 Mar 2020 11:31The plot is about 20m (65 feet) wide. There is a 3m (10 feet) setback from the boundary plus 9m (30 feet) depth for the garage. That means there would be 8m (26 feet) available for the ‘left curve.’
Maybe the garage needs to be shorter if the radius is too tight?
Oh wait, I just thought of another idea. The garage could be moved further south. Boundary development is allowed up to 9m (30 feet) in length. The garage is currently 6m (20 feet) wide. That would give more space for parking—11m (36 feet) instead of 8m (26 feet).
Hmm, I need to sketch this out calmly tonight! Thanks for the suggestion!
Maybe the garage needs to be shorter if the radius is too tight?
Oh wait, I just thought of another idea. The garage could be moved further south. Boundary development is allowed up to 9m (30 feet) in length. The garage is currently 6m (20 feet) wide. That would give more space for parking—11m (36 feet) instead of 8m (26 feet).
Hmm, I need to sketch this out calmly tonight! Thanks for the suggestion!
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