Hello dear forum members,
as mentioned in the introduction thread, here is the current status of our house planning.
The plot is located in the second row and is accessible via the courtyard of the front house (shared driveway).
Currently, there are existing buildings on the plot that need to be demolished.
We have already had a few planning discussions with construction companies, and honestly, I have to say I am shocked by their “professionalism.” We have now specifically selected companies where consultation takes place with architects and not, for example, a trained cook (no joke, that actually happened!). In addition, we are already annoyed by the question: “What do you want to build? A shell bungalow or a single-family house?” When we say: “Let’s work out the floor plan step by step and see which shape and roof pitch result, then we can still decide the official house type,” we only get strange looks. There were no independent ideas tailored to the plot... When asking what they would recommend, we just get a questioning look. I have to say, I expected more, but maybe it is normal that you have to bring the initial idea for the floor plan yourself...
Due to the current situation, further appointments with the construction companies are difficult to arrange. So we are using the time to plan ourselves. After tapping into your collective intelligence in the first step, we will then send our draft to the companies including the issues we still see. They will then have the chance to optimize and price our draft for the next consultation.
For us, the heart of the house is the ground floor; the upper floor follows from the ground floor plan (room layout, bathroom above utility room, windows, etc.). The upper floor is located on the exterior walls of the ground floor to the right (north) and bottom (east) of the plan, while to the left (south) and top (west) it is limited to the “main rectangle” or recessed by 1.5m (roughly 5 feet).
Attached you will find the completed questionnaire. Unanswered questions I have not included anymore.
We are very curious about your opinion!
Many thanks in advance.
Ypsi aus NI
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size approx. 700 sqm
Floor area ratio (FAR) 0.3
Site coverage ratio 0.3
Building window, building line and boundary 3m (10 feet) from the neighbor’s boundary
Number of floors 1 full story
open development
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type (Mediterranean) urban villa
Basement, floors 1.5 floors
Number of occupants, age 2 people + planned children
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor GF = 130-140 sqm (1400-1500 sq ft), UF = 50-60 sqm (540-650 sq ft)
Open or closed architecture open
Conservative or modern construction modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island kitchen island
Number of dining seats 6-8
Fireplace wood stove
Balcony, roof terrace possibly roof terrace (flat roof on both volumes)
Garage, carport double garage
House Design
Planned by: Do-it-Yourself
What do you like in particular? Why? Shape fits well into the plot, living area is somewhat separated, kitchen and dining table as central element
What do you dislike? Why? Is the staircase suitable? Is the entrance spacious enough? Can the private rooms on the ground floor be arranged this way?
Preferred heating technology: heat pump
Why did the design develop this way?
We consider the plot relatively narrow. Normally, a rectangular house shape would make sense, using the full width of the plot. But then you lose the best side (south). The floor plan was developed according to “form follows function” and we really like it now (I mean the L-shape, not necessarily the individual room layout).
An interesting idea is not to realize the two wings on the upper floor with a hip roof, but instead to have a flat roof to possibly create one or two roof terraces.
The original wish was for a bungalow, but we realized that it consumes too much floor space. A good compromise for us is to have the master bedroom and master bathroom on the ground floor, and the children’s rooms plus office upstairs.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Are there fundamental planning mistakes we have overlooked so far?
as mentioned in the introduction thread, here is the current status of our house planning.
The plot is located in the second row and is accessible via the courtyard of the front house (shared driveway).
Currently, there are existing buildings on the plot that need to be demolished.
We have already had a few planning discussions with construction companies, and honestly, I have to say I am shocked by their “professionalism.” We have now specifically selected companies where consultation takes place with architects and not, for example, a trained cook (no joke, that actually happened!). In addition, we are already annoyed by the question: “What do you want to build? A shell bungalow or a single-family house?” When we say: “Let’s work out the floor plan step by step and see which shape and roof pitch result, then we can still decide the official house type,” we only get strange looks. There were no independent ideas tailored to the plot... When asking what they would recommend, we just get a questioning look. I have to say, I expected more, but maybe it is normal that you have to bring the initial idea for the floor plan yourself...
Due to the current situation, further appointments with the construction companies are difficult to arrange. So we are using the time to plan ourselves. After tapping into your collective intelligence in the first step, we will then send our draft to the companies including the issues we still see. They will then have the chance to optimize and price our draft for the next consultation.
For us, the heart of the house is the ground floor; the upper floor follows from the ground floor plan (room layout, bathroom above utility room, windows, etc.). The upper floor is located on the exterior walls of the ground floor to the right (north) and bottom (east) of the plan, while to the left (south) and top (west) it is limited to the “main rectangle” or recessed by 1.5m (roughly 5 feet).
Attached you will find the completed questionnaire. Unanswered questions I have not included anymore.
We are very curious about your opinion!
Many thanks in advance.
Ypsi aus NI
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size approx. 700 sqm
Floor area ratio (FAR) 0.3
Site coverage ratio 0.3
Building window, building line and boundary 3m (10 feet) from the neighbor’s boundary
Number of floors 1 full story
open development
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type (Mediterranean) urban villa
Basement, floors 1.5 floors
Number of occupants, age 2 people + planned children
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor GF = 130-140 sqm (1400-1500 sq ft), UF = 50-60 sqm (540-650 sq ft)
Open or closed architecture open
Conservative or modern construction modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island kitchen island
Number of dining seats 6-8
Fireplace wood stove
Balcony, roof terrace possibly roof terrace (flat roof on both volumes)
Garage, carport double garage
House Design
Planned by: Do-it-Yourself
What do you like in particular? Why? Shape fits well into the plot, living area is somewhat separated, kitchen and dining table as central element
What do you dislike? Why? Is the staircase suitable? Is the entrance spacious enough? Can the private rooms on the ground floor be arranged this way?
Preferred heating technology: heat pump
Why did the design develop this way?
We consider the plot relatively narrow. Normally, a rectangular house shape would make sense, using the full width of the plot. But then you lose the best side (south). The floor plan was developed according to “form follows function” and we really like it now (I mean the L-shape, not necessarily the individual room layout).
An interesting idea is not to realize the two wings on the upper floor with a hip roof, but instead to have a flat roof to possibly create one or two roof terraces.
The original wish was for a bungalow, but we realized that it consumes too much floor space. A good compromise for us is to have the master bedroom and master bathroom on the ground floor, and the children’s rooms plus office upstairs.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
Are there fundamental planning mistakes we have overlooked so far?
Ypsi aus NI schrieb:
If you have the perfect floor plan, please share it.
So far, you haven’t even answered where you would place the cloakroom instead...
That doesn’t help... Why should I?
You only answer questions partially.
If the upper floor, which doesn’t concern you, has a roof pitch, the staircase won’t work.
Y
Ypsi aus NI23 Mar 2020 12:42The comment about the wardrobe was addressed to Haydee, not to you, Matthew.
Yes, we have the budget.
The property is currently being transferred to us. The surveyor has already been here, but scheduling the notary appointment is difficult due to the current situation. The front part of the land belongs to my father, and he is transferring the rear section to me.
We are very skilled craftsmen and already have experience with a full renovation. Therefore, we feel confident in handling quite a bit ourselves. How much and especially which work we take on depends on the construction method (solid construction vs. prefab house) and the building costs.
Unlike other floor plans, I feel I have already contributed a lot. The precise measurements, the furniture layout, and the north arrow—I have really tried to think of everything.
Yes, we have the budget.
The property is currently being transferred to us. The surveyor has already been here, but scheduling the notary appointment is difficult due to the current situation. The front part of the land belongs to my father, and he is transferring the rear section to me.
We are very skilled craftsmen and already have experience with a full renovation. Therefore, we feel confident in handling quite a bit ourselves. How much and especially which work we take on depends on the construction method (solid construction vs. prefab house) and the building costs.
Unlike other floor plans, I feel I have already contributed a lot. The precise measurements, the furniture layout, and the north arrow—I have really tried to think of everything.
Y
Ypsi aus NI23 Mar 2020 12:45Pinky0301 schrieb:
Why? It was just an example. 10m (33 feet) or so is still manageable. Especially since it seems that the neighboring property to the south does not have a building immediately adjacent. I know. I also really like your other ideas and suggestions.
If we can’t find a solution with the L shape, we’ll have to revert to the classic design.
From our perspective, the biggest drawback is the combination of the bedroom and bathroom on the ground floor; the rest (relocating the wardrobe? widening the stairs?) are minor issues.
We were hoping to get ideas on how to solve that...
Y
Ypsi aus NI23 Mar 2020 12:49haydee schrieb:
Why should I?
You only answer questions partially.
If the upper floor, which you are not interested in, has a roof pitch, the staircase won’t work. I answered everything except the question about the budget. A ‘we can afford it’ was not accepted.
Y
Ypsi aus NI23 Mar 2020 12:56Matthew03 schrieb:
plus two roof terraces = approx. 20kYou mean per unit, right? So around 20k to 30k additional cost per side for a flat roof with terrace compared to a hipped roof?
Do you have any experience with that?
That's the rough figure we were given...
The roof terrace would definitely be cool, but it would be the first thing we would cut if the price doesn’t look good.
M
Matthew0323 Mar 2020 13:06Ypsi aus NI schrieb:
The comment about the wardrobe was directed at Haydee, not at you, Matthew03. However, this forum features multilateral discussions, not bilateral ones, so you need to be prepared for that.
Similar topics