Bought a house, estimated the renovation budget plus 10-15% for inevitable extras, and we set aside 5000 EUR for the kitchen!!!!
That’s how it started... at first, I was in a bit of shock, but we still had time. First step: remove all the walls for a new layout—I need space...
Let’s start with the (according to the agent) move-in ready property. The small kitchen, just under 8 square meters (about 86 square feet), had its 1970s pass-through removed. The wall including the kitchen door is gone! The wall next to the cellar stairs is gone too! Actually, the entire slanted wall, nearly 7 meters (23 feet) high, removed completely...
The window had to go as well since we needed a different working height than the standard 90 cm (35 inches). New screed installed, we switched to underfloor heating, all electrical wiring and water pipes are new.
After almost six months, the realization slowly sank in: the kitchen budget will not exceed 5000 EUR, so we had to look for a used kitchen... something special, but very cheap.
The search criteria: within a 100 km (62 miles) radius, up to 1000 EUR, because I still want new appliances.
That’s how it started... at first, I was in a bit of shock, but we still had time. First step: remove all the walls for a new layout—I need space...
Let’s start with the (according to the agent) move-in ready property. The small kitchen, just under 8 square meters (about 86 square feet), had its 1970s pass-through removed. The wall including the kitchen door is gone! The wall next to the cellar stairs is gone too! Actually, the entire slanted wall, nearly 7 meters (23 feet) high, removed completely...
The window had to go as well since we needed a different working height than the standard 90 cm (35 inches). New screed installed, we switched to underfloor heating, all electrical wiring and water pipes are new.
After almost six months, the realization slowly sank in: the kitchen budget will not exceed 5000 EUR, so we had to look for a used kitchen... something special, but very cheap.
The search criteria: within a 100 km (62 miles) radius, up to 1000 EUR, because I still want new appliances.
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hampshire5 Apr 2019 17:31ypg schrieb:
Even if the room allows it, it will be too dark. That can happen. However, the doors in front of the kitchen island will only be used for items rarely needed. In front of them, there will be a light gray bench and a light-colored table with 4 chairs in different colors. So this area can already be excluded from being considered "dark."
On the side of the refrigerator, a staircase of the same width leads up to the mezzanine. This otherwise large black surface therefore should not be seen as a bulky block. I believe this will make a big difference.
ypg schrieb:
I think it would look more harmonious if the cooktop was aligned with the sink, with the deep shelves placed side by side against the wall. The idea of having the cooktop and sink at the same height is very good. We deliberately chose a centered arrangement in each area because the main viewpoint into the kitchen will not be along the axis of the cooktop and sink.
The sink niche has a depth of 80cm (31 inches), with some shelving and lighting behind it.
ypg schrieb:
It might be too much natural wood color. We saw a nearly identical kitchen in a showroom, and for us, it was neither too dark nor too woody. I will provide original photos in July.
ypg schrieb:
What about the doors? Anthracite matte smooth or something else? The doors are indeed finished in a matte black and have the effect of appearing silvery light when viewed from the side against incoming light. The terrace door serves as the source of natural light.
We ourselves are very curious.
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hampshire5 Apr 2019 17:35chand1986 schrieb:
I like the layout. Stainless steel fronts would look great with all the wood... and especially brighter. I also find it a bit dark Stainless steel was also an option to consider. We tested the black surface with greasy fingers and a dog’s nose and found the marks surprisingly unobtrusive and very easy to clean. I haven’t tested stainless steel.The big problem with such combinations… After about 5 years, you start wondering what kind of strange taste you had back then – it’s simply not timeless. It doesn’t have to be, but for me, this is too extreme. Personally, I really like a high wall, but not all those open compartments. And I would use a downdraft system. These range hoods just don’t look nice.
@aero2016
If you address someone personally and confront them, you should name the right person. If you are too vague about it, you better leave it be. For clarification, here is my post you are referring to:
... please read the last sentence again, which probably can only be seen in the expanded view of this post.
It was actually more: criticism of lifestyle, alcoholism... the remark that children are more likely to fall into alcohol abuse if it is openly available in the household. If I had children, I would have taken that personally... I didn’t really check: probably some users have turned their backs on this thread.
“Questioning” is not the same as saying something is “not okay” or “disliked.” It’s a call for some critics here to wake up and maybe reflect on themselves.
You know: we have quite a few “show your pictures” threads here... and in most cases it works that criticism is avoided or a photo is simply liked out of respect for the original poster’s courage.
I have seen some really ugly things here, but I don’t have to diss or overinterpret an accessory. No one has to.
In public forums, common courtesy should be maintained.
If you address someone personally and confront them, you should name the right person. If you are too vague about it, you better leave it be. For clarification, here is my post you are referring to:
ypg schrieb:
One should question these display cabinets where the "good dishes" just sit unused.
Or the whole colorful collection of coffee mugs that some people hoard in their cupboards... no wonder the breakfast table ends up looking like it belongs to the Hottentots
Tastes differ, and everyone has different priorities in life they cherish and maintain.
... please read the last sentence again, which probably can only be seen in the expanded view of this post.
guckuck2 schrieb:
It was purely about the appearance of displayed liquor bottles. Nothing more, nothing less. So, cheers.
It was actually more: criticism of lifestyle, alcoholism... the remark that children are more likely to fall into alcohol abuse if it is openly available in the household. If I had children, I would have taken that personally... I didn’t really check: probably some users have turned their backs on this thread.
aero2016 schrieb:
And why is it okay for you to say you don’t like “good dishes” in display cabinets, but not okay to say you don’t like alcohol bottles in display cabinets?
“Questioning” is not the same as saying something is “not okay” or “disliked.” It’s a call for some critics here to wake up and maybe reflect on themselves.
aero2016 schrieb:
But if you present something in public forums, you have to expect others to comment, whether they like it or not. If you can’t handle that,
You know: we have quite a few “show your pictures” threads here... and in most cases it works that criticism is avoided or a photo is simply liked out of respect for the original poster’s courage.
I have seen some really ugly things here, but I don’t have to diss or overinterpret an accessory. No one has to.
In public forums, common courtesy should be maintained.
ypg schrieb:
the comment that children are more likely to become exposed to alcohol if it is openly available in the household. I assume this refers to me? However, I did NOT write that consciously. I only said that in my experience, children seem to drink more alcohol later on if it is openly available at home, but I do NOT know if that is actually true… it’s just an impression. No one should feel attacked by that… as parents, we all want the best for our children, but whether my approach is ultimately better or worse than another, I can never be sure (after all, no one here is giving their child alcohol to drink). I certainly did not intend to offend anyone. If anyone felt offended by my post, I want to sincerely apologize!
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hampshire5 Apr 2019 18:05Tego12 schrieb:
The big problem with such combinations is that after about five years, you start wondering why you had such strange taste back then – it just isn’t timeless at all.
And I would use a downdraft system. These extractor hoods simply don’t look good.The whole “timeless” aspect is very important. We have been together for 30 years, built our first home in 2001, and have gained quite a bit of confidence in what we do.
Downdraft is great. I really like Bora and their team, but unfortunately, I wanted a full-surface induction cooktop, which doesn’t work well with downdraft systems. That’s why I chose the small Falmec Marilyn hood made of ceramic.
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