Hello building experts,
I have already asked some questions in this https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/hausausrichtung-sued-oder-West.9523/page-3 thread, but I wanted to start a separate post now because I think it no longer fits with the original discussion.
We are planning to build a new single-family house with approximately 160sqm-180sqm (1720-1937 sq ft). The house will be about 10x11 meters / 9x12 meters (33x36 ft / 30x39 ft) in size and will have a gable/ bay window. Upstairs, there will be three children's bedrooms, the master bedroom, and a bathroom. On the ground floor, there will be a utility room, living room, kitchen, office, and a bathroom with a shower.
A garage or carport with a storage room is planned, depending on the available budget.
The development plan includes the following restrictions:
Boundary setback: 3m (10 ft) to the neighboring plot only for garage/carport with a maximum length of 9m (30 ft); for corner buildings, a boundary setback of 15m (49 ft) is allowed.
House: 4m (13 ft) eaves height, 9m (30 ft) ridge height; no prescribed gable orientation.
I have roughly created floor plans for west and north orientations and attached them.
Images 1 and 2 show the new residential area and the location of the plot; these images are oriented to north.
The plot measures about 27x27 meters (see Grundstück_maße.jpg) (89x89 ft).
The other images show the floor plans and the considerations for the orientation on the plot. Unfortunately, I could not find a suitable tool to better illustrate the orientation. The large black area represents the house, the smaller one the carport/garage with storage. These images are not north oriented but rotated, roughly facing south.
A south orientation is also possible. However, we want to leave some space for the known friendly neighbors to the east and north and would prefer not to build over those areas.
If the neighbor builds their house with a 9m (30 ft) height directly at the boundary, there would be about 14m (46 ft) to the west with the west orientation and about 12m (39 ft) + the 3m (10 ft) boundary zone with the north orientation.
Is this enough to have sunlight in the evening (from 5:00 pm to 8:00 pm)? And will there still be sunlight in autumn and winter?
My main concern is that the utility room should not face south, and I have no idea where to place the garage or carport.
I hope you can help me with this issue.
Regards,
Sören
I have already asked some questions in this https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/hausausrichtung-sued-oder-West.9523/page-3 thread, but I wanted to start a separate post now because I think it no longer fits with the original discussion.
We are planning to build a new single-family house with approximately 160sqm-180sqm (1720-1937 sq ft). The house will be about 10x11 meters / 9x12 meters (33x36 ft / 30x39 ft) in size and will have a gable/ bay window. Upstairs, there will be three children's bedrooms, the master bedroom, and a bathroom. On the ground floor, there will be a utility room, living room, kitchen, office, and a bathroom with a shower.
A garage or carport with a storage room is planned, depending on the available budget.
The development plan includes the following restrictions:
Boundary setback: 3m (10 ft) to the neighboring plot only for garage/carport with a maximum length of 9m (30 ft); for corner buildings, a boundary setback of 15m (49 ft) is allowed.
House: 4m (13 ft) eaves height, 9m (30 ft) ridge height; no prescribed gable orientation.
I have roughly created floor plans for west and north orientations and attached them.
Images 1 and 2 show the new residential area and the location of the plot; these images are oriented to north.
The plot measures about 27x27 meters (see Grundstück_maße.jpg) (89x89 ft).
The other images show the floor plans and the considerations for the orientation on the plot. Unfortunately, I could not find a suitable tool to better illustrate the orientation. The large black area represents the house, the smaller one the carport/garage with storage. These images are not north oriented but rotated, roughly facing south.
A south orientation is also possible. However, we want to leave some space for the known friendly neighbors to the east and north and would prefer not to build over those areas.
If the neighbor builds their house with a 9m (30 ft) height directly at the boundary, there would be about 14m (46 ft) to the west with the west orientation and about 12m (39 ft) + the 3m (10 ft) boundary zone with the north orientation.
Is this enough to have sunlight in the evening (from 5:00 pm to 8:00 pm)? And will there still be sunlight in autumn and winter?
My main concern is that the utility room should not face south, and I have no idea where to place the garage or carport.
I hope you can help me with this issue.
Regards,
Sören
montessalet24 Sep 2018 14:18Zaba12 schrieb:
You are an optimist. I’ll remind you again in 3 months That’s true though... The corresponding page is called Sonnenverlauf (sun path).
I miss the wall thickness (let’s say roughly 40cm (16 inches) for exterior walls and 20cm (8 inches) for interior walls; that way, you get realistic room dimensions and floor areas), as well as the floor heights on the upper floor (attic).
My favorite layout is option 1, but the north bay window makes me hesitate.
Primarily, I see the bay window here only increasing the cost of the roof—how is it supposed to be useful?
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My favorite layout is option 1, but the north bay window makes me hesitate.
Primarily, I see the bay window here only increasing the cost of the roof—how is it supposed to be useful?
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Zaba12 schrieb:
You are an optimist. I'll remind you again in 3 months I guess I was a bit too optimistic about it....
First of all, thank you for the suggestions.
Forget about the wall thickness and so on, I understand all of that.
This is just about getting a rough idea.
Should the utility room really be located in the southeast? I always thought it should be in a cooler spot.
The living room facing north/west instead of south/west? Shouldn't the living room get the most sunlight and be oriented to the south?
I actually thought (apart from the poor drawing) the designs weren't that bad. What is so wrong with the floor plan?
The bay window/gable is meant to provide more space. In the west-facing floor plan, our large wardrobe simply doesn’t fit.
The north-facing floor plan is debatable, but at least the bathroom wouldn’t have sloped ceilings.
Forget about the wall thickness and so on, I understand all of that.
This is just about getting a rough idea.
Should the utility room really be located in the southeast? I always thought it should be in a cooler spot.
The living room facing north/west instead of south/west? Shouldn't the living room get the most sunlight and be oriented to the south?
I actually thought (apart from the poor drawing) the designs weren't that bad. What is so wrong with the floor plan?
The bay window/gable is meant to provide more space. In the west-facing floor plan, our large wardrobe simply doesn’t fit.
The north-facing floor plan is debatable, but at least the bathroom wouldn’t have sloped ceilings.
Sören schrieb:
Should the utility room really be located in the southeast? I always thought it should be in a cool area.?No, living areas belong on the Favored Side.
Sören schrieb:
Shouldn't the living room get the most sunlight and be facing south?What do you gain from that? Since people work during the day, the dining area and kitchen should be given more priority, as already mentioned.
Sören schrieb:
Forget about the wall thickness and so on, I understand all that. It’s just about getting a rough orientation. For me too, it wasn’t about the principle but the practical effect: walls that are set too thin can falsely increase the living area.
Sören schrieb:
Should the utility room really be placed facing southeast? I always thought it should be in a cooler location.? [...] Shouldn’t the living room get the most sun? That’s why I mentioned that the north-facing corner makes me suspicious. The washing machine doesn’t have specific orientation requirements, only the pantry is ideally located on the north side.
Sören schrieb:
I actually thought (aside from the poor drawing) the designs weren’t that bad. What is wrong with the floor plan? The drawing isn’t bad at all, and the floor plans are fine for the stage of this discussion.
Sören schrieb:
The bay window/gable is supposed to provide more space. That’s why I asked about the purpose or the height lines. A cross gable aligned with the general eaves line can also provide the effect of “locally higher knee walls.” Together with the wall projection, this adds an additional cost factor.
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