ᐅ Should you include a patio roof in the floor plan?

Created on: 17 Mar 2014 10:10
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milkie
Hello everyone,

we would like a patio roof as shown in the attachment.
For us, only half of the patio would be covered, specifically the area in front of the kitchen. Our design is finished, pending structural engineer approval.

Should the patio roof be included in the architectural plans and building permit / planning permission, or is it sufficient to address it during the landscaping phase?

Good luck
milkie
Modern house patio with lounge furniture and dining table under pergola
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milkie
21 Mar 2014 17:27
Ok. This is now the slightly modified original version. We have adjusted the floor plan a bit and increased the size of the doors by about 30-40cm (12-16 inches) each.

This way, the window on the upper floor would also be better positioned, right?
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ypg
21 Mar 2014 17:35
Much better. What is the gray area to the left of the windows?
I can imagine reducing the windows on the lower right side by one-fifth (at least the kitchen window). What are their current widths?
I think that would add more visual interest without significantly reducing the interior light.
This is the south side, right?
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milkie
21 Mar 2014 17:42
The gray area shows the partially open sliding door, which in this 1/3 - 2/3 design functions more like a regular door.

The width is currently about 310-320cm (10ft 2in - 10ft 6in). I think that should work well, right?
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ypg
21 Mar 2014 18:07
Honestly, I find them a bit too large! And the kitchen area appears visually bigger than the left side, even though they are actually the same size.
When I imagine the room, specifically the south wall from the inside, I personally feel there would be “too little wall space.” First, in relation to the windows: this makes the wall feel too open, which reduces the sense of coziness. Second, I would miss having space for a piece of furniture or a gallery wall.
Are you currently living in a dark place?
Sometimes, negative experiences can distort our sense of proportion.
And I want to emphasize that I love windows… we actually planned for more than average in our design.
On a second thought, I also wouldn’t feel comfortable with the living room… did you ever share a floor plan discussion? (just asking)
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milkie
21 Mar 2014 18:39
No, we haven’t posted the current floor plan. However, we are very happy with the living room. To the west there is a strip of windows, and it’s still undecided whether the sofa will be placed one way or the other. The solid wall to the utility room will definitely get a very cozy built-in wall unit.

Ok, then we might keep the window/door width as it has been at 270cm (106 inches). But I still need to test that again.
I personally prefer the floor-to-ceiling large window fronts, but my husband doesn’t.
That would have been the compromise. Let’s see how the 270cm (106 inches) width works (also from the inside). I will keep you updated.
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ypg
21 Mar 2014 19:44
I looked through and found your preliminary design. (At the time, I had only commented on the upper floor.)

Maybe it’s okay that the kitchen becomes quite dark because of the roof extension? Even with a larger window, you can’t really compensate if the overhang is above it.

The daylight strip on the west side of the living area is fine—there’s not really an expectation of a view there anyway (neighbors).

Large windows look great… yes, indeed! But the appearance and proportions need to be right.

What if you plan the roof extension at the height where there is no window (pantry height), so that 220–250cm (87–98 inches) of the window area (both windows) is left clear? You wouldn’t block the southern view with furniture since it would be placed in the corner (which is also a nice form of protection).

I mean: when would you go outside in the rain anyway? The window itself doesn’t necessarily need to be covered by the roof extension.

Try visualizing the exterior views and explore the different possibilities.

A built-in wall unit is nice and all, but sometimes you want to design a wall with, for example, an armchair, a bench, or a dresser. A surface for a table lamp, bowl, or vase is also a common preference of residents… if not now, then certainly later?!