ᐅ Floor Plan Options for a Single-Family Home, 130–150 sqm, 1.5 Stories, Hillside Location
Created on: 19 Feb 2022 15:35
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jerimata
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size – 680 sqm (7319 sq ft)
Slope – hillside location, approximately 1.5-2 m (5-6.5 ft) incline within the building envelope
Site coverage ratio – 0.3
Floor area ratio – 0.6
Building envelope, building line and boundary – see image
Adjacent buildings – none planned, neighboring lots undeveloped
Number of parking spaces – 2
Number of floors – 1.5 above basement
Roof type – gable roof with 33-43º pitch
Architectural style – traditional single-family house
Orientation – as per plan, facing south
Maximum heights/limits: ridge height 8.60 m (28.2 ft) measured from ground floor level
Additional requirements: fixed ridge orientation, ground floor height fixed with a 60 cm (24 inch) window
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof, classic style, if possible untreated, weathering wood façade on ground and upper floors
Basement, floors: due to hillside location a basement with open southern side is suitable; other sensible options (stilts?) have not been suggested so far
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults, planning for 3 children
Room requirements on ground and upper floors:
- Ground floor: open kitchen-dining-living area, guest WC with shower, office (can be moved upstairs if necessary), balcony/terrace on west side (mixed orientation due to slope)
- Upper floor: 3 or 4 bedrooms, family bathroom (shower + bathtub)
- Basement: open to south, main entrance on south (front of house) with hallway, utility room, storage room, 2 rooms for expansion (hobby and/or youth room; if used as youth room, one fewer children’s bedroom upstairs could be planned)
Office use – home office
Guest accommodation per year – visitors expected occasionally, accommodated as needed
Open or closed architecture – open plan, no fully separated staircase
Conservative or modern style – not clear what that means; lots of wood (wooden beams) would be nice but usually too costly
Open kitchen, kitchen island – yes to both
Number of dining seats – 5+ (with temporary solutions acceptable for guests)
Fireplace – yes, on ground floor; aware it may be impractical
Music/home theater wall – TV wall starting from 2.6 m (8.5 ft) width
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony with terrace extension on west side planned
Garage, carport – double carport if visually suitable; garage probably better due to slope
Vegetable garden, greenhouse – basically, planned for the future
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, reasons for choices or exclusions:
Since at least one person spends a lot of time in the office in the afternoon/evening, we envision it on the ground floor – currently this is the case, with open doors; kitchen noise and smells do not disturb but rather enhance the feeling of togetherness in the house. This also explains the wish for an open living-dining-kitchen area. One question is how much this area can or should be separated from the open staircase with walls and doors: marketing materials show it nicely, keeping children in "acoustic" proximity, but the practical benefit of at least one, instead of two doors between children’s rooms and living room is undeniable.
House Design
Planning by:
– planner from a construction company
– architect
– Do-it-Yourself
A mix of all three, with no finalized designs yet
What do you like most? Why?
Open living-dining-kitchen area, open staircase, entrance via basement – the living room is intended as a family lounge with acoustical and olfactory contact acceptable; entrance in basement avoids the annoying "walking around the house" and provides space for coats and shoes.
What don’t you like? Why?
Price estimate by architect/planner:
Between €350k and €550k for the house without basement depending on provider
Personal price limit for house including equipment:
Considering €100k for basement, €100k additional construction-related costs, then maximum €400k + €50k for equipment and some landscaping
Preferred heating technology:
Most financially reasonable: underfloor heating with near-surface geothermal heat would be nice but difficult without electric offers; therefore likely mainstream air-to-water heat pump.
If you have to give up something, which details/additions
– can be given up:
Office on the ground floor if this allows a larger living-dining-kitchen area – before all three children arrive, another solution might be found (possibly in basement).
Ground floor exit to north garden including mudroom area – could be omitted to save floor space, but is usually included in standard series houses anyway.
Pantry also dispensable – often the small utility room serves the purpose, which in our case is in the basement.
Possibly basement dispensable if there are reasonable alternatives.
– cannot be given up:
Fireplace. 🙂
Why has the design evolved as it is now?
A mix of many examples from various magazines, scaling back special requests after first cost estimates, room requirements...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your view?
Good: orientation to south/west, no need to walk around the house, main rooms with nice south-west exposure.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Opinions and arguments on ground floor variants: Where should the office be, kitchen-dining area angular or linear, wall/door to kitchen-dining area?
Thank you very much for your honest feedback. If I should clarify or specify anything better, please just ask!
Plot size – 680 sqm (7319 sq ft)
Slope – hillside location, approximately 1.5-2 m (5-6.5 ft) incline within the building envelope
Site coverage ratio – 0.3
Floor area ratio – 0.6
Building envelope, building line and boundary – see image
Adjacent buildings – none planned, neighboring lots undeveloped
Number of parking spaces – 2
Number of floors – 1.5 above basement
Roof type – gable roof with 33-43º pitch
Architectural style – traditional single-family house
Orientation – as per plan, facing south
Maximum heights/limits: ridge height 8.60 m (28.2 ft) measured from ground floor level
Additional requirements: fixed ridge orientation, ground floor height fixed with a 60 cm (24 inch) window
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof, classic style, if possible untreated, weathering wood façade on ground and upper floors
Basement, floors: due to hillside location a basement with open southern side is suitable; other sensible options (stilts?) have not been suggested so far
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults, planning for 3 children
Room requirements on ground and upper floors:
- Ground floor: open kitchen-dining-living area, guest WC with shower, office (can be moved upstairs if necessary), balcony/terrace on west side (mixed orientation due to slope)
- Upper floor: 3 or 4 bedrooms, family bathroom (shower + bathtub)
- Basement: open to south, main entrance on south (front of house) with hallway, utility room, storage room, 2 rooms for expansion (hobby and/or youth room; if used as youth room, one fewer children’s bedroom upstairs could be planned)
Office use – home office
Guest accommodation per year – visitors expected occasionally, accommodated as needed
Open or closed architecture – open plan, no fully separated staircase
Conservative or modern style – not clear what that means; lots of wood (wooden beams) would be nice but usually too costly
Open kitchen, kitchen island – yes to both
Number of dining seats – 5+ (with temporary solutions acceptable for guests)
Fireplace – yes, on ground floor; aware it may be impractical
Music/home theater wall – TV wall starting from 2.6 m (8.5 ft) width
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony with terrace extension on west side planned
Garage, carport – double carport if visually suitable; garage probably better due to slope
Vegetable garden, greenhouse – basically, planned for the future
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, reasons for choices or exclusions:
Since at least one person spends a lot of time in the office in the afternoon/evening, we envision it on the ground floor – currently this is the case, with open doors; kitchen noise and smells do not disturb but rather enhance the feeling of togetherness in the house. This also explains the wish for an open living-dining-kitchen area. One question is how much this area can or should be separated from the open staircase with walls and doors: marketing materials show it nicely, keeping children in "acoustic" proximity, but the practical benefit of at least one, instead of two doors between children’s rooms and living room is undeniable.
House Design
Planning by:
– planner from a construction company
– architect
– Do-it-Yourself
A mix of all three, with no finalized designs yet
What do you like most? Why?
Open living-dining-kitchen area, open staircase, entrance via basement – the living room is intended as a family lounge with acoustical and olfactory contact acceptable; entrance in basement avoids the annoying "walking around the house" and provides space for coats and shoes.
What don’t you like? Why?
Price estimate by architect/planner:
Between €350k and €550k for the house without basement depending on provider
Personal price limit for house including equipment:
Considering €100k for basement, €100k additional construction-related costs, then maximum €400k + €50k for equipment and some landscaping
Preferred heating technology:
Most financially reasonable: underfloor heating with near-surface geothermal heat would be nice but difficult without electric offers; therefore likely mainstream air-to-water heat pump.
If you have to give up something, which details/additions
– can be given up:
Office on the ground floor if this allows a larger living-dining-kitchen area – before all three children arrive, another solution might be found (possibly in basement).
Ground floor exit to north garden including mudroom area – could be omitted to save floor space, but is usually included in standard series houses anyway.
Pantry also dispensable – often the small utility room serves the purpose, which in our case is in the basement.
Possibly basement dispensable if there are reasonable alternatives.
– cannot be given up:
Fireplace. 🙂
Why has the design evolved as it is now?
A mix of many examples from various magazines, scaling back special requests after first cost estimates, room requirements...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your view?
Good: orientation to south/west, no need to walk around the house, main rooms with nice south-west exposure.
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Opinions and arguments on ground floor variants: Where should the office be, kitchen-dining area angular or linear, wall/door to kitchen-dining area?
Thank you very much for your honest feedback. If I should clarify or specify anything better, please just ask!
Let me put it this way. Your versions didn’t have any access to the garden. It wasn’t usable either. The option only uses the existing soil masses to level the terrain. The retaining wall also serves as a boundary wall to the neighbor and to the leveled area.
Yes, the carport roof and the platform are supposed to be on the same level.
Is the retaining wall allowed to be on the boundary and that close to the street?
Depending on the budget, you can extend the retaining wall further into the slope (partial basement for the heating system, etc.). (In Bavaria, it may be allowed up to 9 m (30 feet) on the boundary.) Unfortunately, I’m not familiar with the regulations in Baden-Württemberg.
Yes, the carport roof and the platform are supposed to be on the same level.
Is the retaining wall allowed to be on the boundary and that close to the street?
Depending on the budget, you can extend the retaining wall further into the slope (partial basement for the heating system, etc.). (In Bavaria, it may be allowed up to 9 m (30 feet) on the boundary.) Unfortunately, I’m not familiar with the regulations in Baden-Württemberg.
jerimata schrieb:
It may be that the basement rule refers to a comparison between a slab foundation and an uninsulated basement (is that the case?), No, the 11ant basement rule compares the cost of a constructed basement with that of a basement "avoided" at all costs against the “will” of the plot, and it actually applies already to a utility basement (cold cellar). Whether the thermal envelope boundary is the ground or a cold cellar should not significantly affect the calculation – the insulation required for both options is quite similar.
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gutentag schrieb:
I'll put it this way: your options didn’t have any access to the garden. I think the problem is also the statement or lack of imagination about how the terrace is used. That's how it was read, right?
@jerimata
When the weather is nice, people usually stay indoors only as little as necessary. The terrace becomes an extension of the living area for everything. Even the kitchen activities move outside for preparation. And when the grill is fired up, cooking happens outdoors as well. Many no longer cook inside at all, even grilling through the winter months. From October to Easter, the terrace is used as a large refrigerator. Starting in March, it’s used for potting and planting. In summer, the bicycle might rest there occasionally. Some people hardly do anything indoors anymore because the terrace is the ultimate place to relax at home. And outside, between Easter and October, there’s always something to do in the garden; the terrace serves as the starting and ending point for that. Why sit indoors when it’s above 21°C (70°F)? Indoor sofas gather dust until sunset. The trend is already moving towards having a third or fourth terrace 😉
Thank you @ypg, as someone currently living in a rental apartment, it’s really helpful to hear your explanations – many things are not even on my radar yet, and it’s easy to underestimate what new possibilities will open up once they become available.
However, I’m still unclear about the following statement:
Of course, the area in the south shouldn’t be completely wasted, but parking spaces, street, and low height made it less appealing to plant a productive garden there..
However, I’m still unclear about the following statement:
gutentag schrieb:What exactly does that mean, or what is the qualitative difference compared to your proposal? A direct door to the backyard would be great, but it feels like a luxury if you can access it via the terrace anyway (which might be used for gardening tasks). I wasn’t thinking of a heavily used garden in the south, but really consistently behind the house (as drawn – maybe even shifting the house forward within the building envelope to have a larger continuous garden in the north). Ideally without heavily terracing the slope, but rather creating several raised-bed-like areas… but all that is still quite open. A classic, flat lawn area is not what I want; I prefer a more "natural" and productive space – where I’d place a lounge chair to relax rather than a decorative garden.
Your options had no access to the garden at all. It wasn’t usable either.
Of course, the area in the south shouldn’t be completely wasted, but parking spaces, street, and low height made it less appealing to plant a productive garden there..
gutentag schrieb:
Is it allowed for the CP to be right on the property line and that close to the road? The CP window is set on the dashed line in the plan – but maybe it will have to be a garage, since at the front of the plot (south side), a significant embankment (2–3 m (6.5–10 feet) high) has formed due to deeper road construction, which was not reflected in the terrain lines.
gutentag schrieb:
Depending on your budget, you could extend the CP further into the slope (partial basement for utility rooms, etc.). (In Bavaria, it may be allowed up to 9 m (30 feet) at the property line.) Unfortunately, I’m not familiar with Baden-Württemberg regulations. I think the bigger issue might be building a terrace (the gray area on the left) directly on the neighbor’s boundary. Also, retaining walls, fences, or hedges along the edge are generally not allowed to exceed 1.20 m (4 feet) in height.
ypg schrieb:
I think the problem is also the statement or lack of clear idea about how the terrace will be used. YMMD
jerimata schrieb:
The CP window is fixed at the dashed line on the plan... Who decided that? The local authority? Is that really a fixed area for the parking spaces? The building envelope for the house also looks extremely limited on your plan. Is that really accurate? If so, this kind of information should be included in post #1 of the thread and highlighted separately, since it would be quite unusual. So far, this is all very confusing. I’ll step out until there is more clarity.
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