ᐅ Floor Plan Design for a Single-Family Home (140 sqm Urban Villa) on a Slope with a Double Garage
Created on: 13 Jul 2018 11:06
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Franky73
Hello everyone,
Two months ago, we purchased a serviced building plot on a hillside and are currently deeply involved in the floor plan design, which is proving quite challenging due to the elevation difference.
I have been following the forum for a while and recently found a great template for our project that I think just needs some adjustments to fit our requirements. I would really appreciate your feedback and am, of course, open to criticism!
Development Plan / Restrictions
Owner’s Requirements
House Design
If you have to give up something, which details or features
Why does the design look the way it does?
We really like the design here by "kaho674." It truly reflects our ideas. The upper floor should still fit now but, of course, with our minimum required room sizes and the requirement to build only 1.5 storeys.
What is really important to us, especially since the plot is on a slope — the highest point at the street is just under 1m (3.3 ft) above the zero level and it drops 5.11m (16.8 ft) to the lowest point — is how everything can be integrated into the plot without the costs for filling and leveling running out of control. We have also considered an alternative to the urban villa in the style of a split-level house. What have your experiences been building on such a plot?
Many thanks
Two months ago, we purchased a serviced building plot on a hillside and are currently deeply involved in the floor plan design, which is proving quite challenging due to the elevation difference.
I have been following the forum for a while and recently found a great template for our project that I think just needs some adjustments to fit our requirements. I would really appreciate your feedback and am, of course, open to criticism!
Development Plan / Restrictions
- Plot size: 722sqm (7,770 sqft)
- Slope: Yes (southwest)
- Site coverage ratio: 0.3
- Floor area ratio: 0.8
- Building window, building line and boundary: -
- Edge development: No (only carport)
- Number of parking spaces: 1-2 (in front of the garage and next to the house)
- Number of storeys: 1.5
- Roof style: No restrictions
- Architectural style: No restrictions
- Orientation: No restrictions
- Maximum heights / limits: 3m (10 ft) distance to neighbor
Owner’s Requirements
- Style, roof type, building type: Urban villa, hipped roof
- Basement, storeys: No basement, 1.5 storeys
- Number of occupants: 4 (ages: 44, 45, 16, 6 years)
- Space requirements on ground and upper floor: Upstairs minimum bedroom 11sqm (118 sqft), walk-in closet 8sqm (86 sqft), 2 children’s rooms 12sqm (129 sqft) each, bathroom 13sqm (140 sqft)
- Office: Family use or home office?: Not needed
- Guest overnight stays per year: Rare
- Open or closed architecture: Open downstairs, rather closed upstairs
- Conservative or modern design: Modern
- Open kitchen, kitchen island: Open kitchen with island
- Number of dining seats: Minimum 6, possibility for a large dining table (big family)
- Fireplace: No
- Music / stereo wall: No
- Balcony, roof terrace: If possible, a partially covered terrace
- Garage, carport: Preferably a double garage
- Utility garden, greenhouse: Yes
- Other: Storage space necessary, as no basement
House Design
- Who designed the plan: Currently from the forum
- What do you like most? Why? Great layout on the ground floor, still open upstairs
- What do you not like? Why?: The upper floor layout still fits 3 children, which we don’t need
- Estimated price by architect/planner: We thought, excluding land, max $250,000 - realistic?
- Personal price limit for house, including fittings: €250,000
- Preferred heating system: We are open!
If you have to give up something, which details or features
- You can give up: Walk-in closet, double garage
- You cannot give up: Large bathroom
Why does the design look the way it does?
We really like the design here by "kaho674." It truly reflects our ideas. The upper floor should still fit now but, of course, with our minimum required room sizes and the requirement to build only 1.5 storeys.
What is really important to us, especially since the plot is on a slope — the highest point at the street is just under 1m (3.3 ft) above the zero level and it drops 5.11m (16.8 ft) to the lowest point — is how everything can be integrated into the plot without the costs for filling and leveling running out of control. We have also considered an alternative to the urban villa in the style of a split-level house. What have your experiences been building on such a plot?
Many thanks
You received a quote and are asking here if it’s reasonable?
Why don’t you get comparison quotes yourself?
Why don’t you check what might be different? Just the price per meter? Or does one offer include additional necessary materials that the other doesn’t? Delivery costs? Return policies?
As has been mentioned several times here: you learn a lot this way! You get a sense of what to specifically look out for next time, what matters.
Honestly, you’re still waiting for a delivery!
And then you’re surprised when people criticize you for that...
You’re already looking for a fence—honestly, that’s nice if you don’t have anything else to do, but otherwise, I’ll quote myself: don’t put the roof on before the foundation!
Right now, there are more important things than choosing the fence, believe me...
Why don’t you get comparison quotes yourself?
Why don’t you check what might be different? Just the price per meter? Or does one offer include additional necessary materials that the other doesn’t? Delivery costs? Return policies?
As has been mentioned several times here: you learn a lot this way! You get a sense of what to specifically look out for next time, what matters.
Honestly, you’re still waiting for a delivery!
And then you’re surprised when people criticize you for that...
You’re already looking for a fence—honestly, that’s nice if you don’t have anything else to do, but otherwise, I’ll quote myself: don’t put the roof on before the foundation!
Right now, there are more important things than choosing the fence, believe me...
Climbee schrieb:
You have a quote and you're asking here if it's reasonable? Why don't you get comparison quotes yourself?I already have comparison quotes! What does this have to do with suppliers when you're asking for other people’s experience here? Why do people post house prices, land prices, garage prices, etc. here and ask if they are justified? Oh right, suppliers, you better get comparison quotes yourselves and stop asking stupid questions here! With that kind of thinking, you might as well just shut down this forum!
Franky73 schrieb:
Well, we don’t need a carpet for 50€ per square meter (≈ 4.65 per square foot). Even half of that amount can get you good quality! And no, not from a DIY store! You shouldn’t talk about mid-range quality or price category if you don’t know where 20€ per square meter (≈ 1.86 per square foot) settles.
In a good online retailer, prices start at 15€ (≈ 1.40) and go up to 125€ (≈ 11.60).
So 50€ (≈ 4.65) is a good average.
If you only look at online DIY store prices, you get DIY store prices, but not the usual retail prices. Even if you refer to DIY store prices, these are not the standard for available options but the cheapest of the cheap. And even if we’re not talking about quality here yet, it’s certain that the most expensive carpet at Hornbach doesn’t compare to the mid-price range products in specialty stores.
Since you don’t mean DIY store products, you have to adjust your 25€ (≈ 2.30) goods accordingly. As we have laid carpet ourselves and also selected it personally, I know the differences between 20€ (≈ 1.86), 50€ (≈ 4.65), or even 70€ (≈ 6.50) carpets very well.
… repeatedly felt, also by my husband
Franky73 schrieb:
I have comparison quotes! What does that have to do with suppliers when you ask here about the experiences of others? Why do people always state the house price, land price, garage price, etc. and ask if they are justified? Oh right, suppliers—you better get your own comparison quotes and stop asking silly questions here! With that mindset, you might as well shut down this forum! But if you already have comparison quotes, why ask here again? We are spread all over Germany. Tradespeople’s prices vary widely! Sometimes you get an average offer, sometimes a high-priced one. The only way to sort that out is through your own comparison quotes.
Also, some of the questions are a bit odd.
For example: How much do I have to pay for 10sqm (108 sqft) of carpet + 20sqm (215 sqft) of laminate + 30sqm (323 sqft) of tiles + 40sqm (430 sqft) of PVC flooring...
How is anyone here supposed to know that? Everything is mixed up right now. First, get a handle on the topic of house providers!
I guarantee you, even if you think you’ve considered everything, there will still be an additional 10,000€ (about 11,000 USD) or more in costs somewhere.
ypg schrieb:
@Zaba12
It’s time... I’ve been tough on myself, but now I’m tearing open the chip bag! Shall I just grab some? *munchingquestion*Definitely yes.
But I have to say something before I go. Franky hinted in a post how he expects things to work together here. Basically, we provide him with the information so he has as little effort as possible and doesn’t have to think too hard. Unfortunately, Katja goes along with this and ends up doing the drafting for him. Personally, I find Franky’s approach here quite unpleasant.
Find a general contractor or architect who gets paid for this. And thoroughly review floor plans in advance.
You at least have a clear direction now.
ByeBye.
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