ᐅ Downpipe Faux Pas...

Bauexperte schrieb:
Ahem... I know quite a few stories about fall protection systems. You might not want to overstate things. Wherever people work, mistakes happen; claiming that a certain trade never makes mistakes seems quite naive to me.

I’m talking about mechanical engineering, not the metalwork section of construction. We can’t treat our clients the way construction companies treat their clients. We built with a very expensive company (price range above Viebrockhaus) and overall got a good house. I also stated that, grading it like in school, it would be a B. But it’s always the last few percent that make the difference. And EXACTLY those regularly fall short during construction. Instead of admitting the mistake, the standard excuse number one is “that’s how it’s supposed to be.”

As an engineer with four semesters of structural analysis, I had to listen to claims that cantilevered beams without support were structurally fine, even when they are supposed to hold 20m² (215 sq ft) of roof area. I told them it’s hanging in mid-air structurally and would collapse under the first snowfall. The site manager and foreman (both with over 20 years of experience each) said, “You have to trust us that we know what we’re doing.” I even did the calculations to show it was faulty, but they wouldn’t be convinced that the beam is hanging unsupported.

It concerns the point with the 7.5m (25 ft) beam. It’s not resting anywhere but is held only by two screws driven into the end grain. The beam below it is also hanging unsupported, held only by a few screws. That’s structural nonsense. I then demanded a “structural proof” for it, and then their eyes glazed over and they extended the lower beam to the floor, so the whole thing now works. But why do they have to argue for 20 minutes when it’s obvious they botched it? As mentioned, this was a renovated large company with knowledgeable, long-standing master carpenters on site.

And it went on like this from one problem to the next. The same routine each time: first do it wrong, then claim nothing is wrong, then try to excuse it, and then patch it up somehow.

We don’t do that in mechanical engineering...

And this is your proof that everyone works that way? As is often the case with your statements: you ignore counterarguments, don’t respond, and avoid taking a position...

We are also building with a very high-end provider – so far, after three inspections by a building surveyor, there have been no defects. Does this prove that poor workmanship doesn’t exist, or that the surveyor is negligent?

Hi,

77.willo schrieb:
We are also building with a very high-priced supplier – so far, no defects found in three inspection appointments. Does this prove that shoddy workmanship doesn’t exist, or that the inspector is not doing a proper job?

If he really finds absolutely nothing at three appointments, that would actually make me concerned….

Best regards,

Andreas

My wife was just at the house.

She was there together with a man from the sewage authority.

Our pumping station requires 400V. It is connected to 230V.

We have no water or toilet flush.

They even offered us a portable toilet for rent..........

I will put all the money I have into a legal case against this company!

This "electrician" is a botcher!

The man also does not come to fix his poor work. He denies everything and blames others.

I don’t know what to do anymore!

Payday schrieb:
Our tradespeople also think we don’t pay attention. That’s just how it is. In the end, everyone makes mistakes, but some (like those in the metalworking industry) do everything to satisfy the customer, while on construction sites there are constant excuses and/or customers are lied to. And why? Because they don’t expect repeat business and customer satisfaction is not taken seriously.

But they still want full payment...

Tiled shower floors are quite tricky when it comes to waterproofing. It’s no coincidence that they are the most common cause of flooding in relatively new buildings.

These and other statements of yours show that you don’t really understand what happens on a construction site.

Reading between the lines, a tradesperson must have been too poor a student at school; otherwise, they would have learned something useful.