ᐅ Downpipe Faux Pas...
Created on: 22 Aug 2016 17:48
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Sgt.Lapdance
andimann schrieb:
Hi,
If after three appointments he really finds absolutely nothing, I would indeed be concerned....
Right now, I’m quite relaxed. He makes a good impression on us and has explained everything he has checked in detail. So far, he really hasn’t found anything. He is also supervising several other construction sites from the same developer and mentioned beforehand that there are usually few problems. But let’s wait and see—we’ve only reached the electrical work stage...Sgt.Lapdance schrieb:
I’m going to put all the money I have into a lawsuit against this company!One can only hope that you have a good construction law attorney to dissuade you from that.
Regards
Dirk Grafe
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Bauexperte26 Aug 2016 22:40Sgt.Lapdance schrieb:
I no longer know what to do! You are posting here cheerfully and, *equally*, bit by bit about "defects" in your construction project; in a moderated section and with the name of your contractor, I would definitely delete such posts. So far, there is no clear evidence to support your claims. The result up to this point: other users feel compelled to discredit an entire professional sector.
How about finally being transparent about *what* you built at *which* price?
Regards, Bauexperte
Regarding the "metal industry," I want to add this:
Contrary to the belief that no shortcuts are taken there... I am a metalworker through and through, both as a hobby and professionally. And God knows how often shortcuts are actually made...
Whether it’s a bearing ball that compensates for an oversized fit at the top (which is usually where measurements are taken) or using thicker grease to fill an oversized gap, and so on. I could talk for HOURS about this!
It’s the same EVERYWHERE:
You get what you pay for. And on top of that, luck and misfortune come into play 😀
Meaning:
Things can go either way 😉
Construction, mechanical engineering, automotive technology—doesn't matter. There are simply no 100% guarantees in life, and if you want to be sure that your own standards are met, you have to take responsibility to ensure that happens. Whether that requires more money, more supervision, or paying more for supervision is up to each person and each situation. Simply talking people into it rarely works. More likely, it takes luck and common sense 😉
From my (very limited) building experience and current assessment, I also suspect that my expectations are higher than those often found in the construction industry. But that’s why we are looking for a good architect and an independent expert. I will clearly explain to both what my expectations are. They will tell me what is justified and what is not. Ensuring that the justified expectations are met is their job. Of course, I will have to pay for that as well, since I cannot do it myself... such is life
Contrary to the belief that no shortcuts are taken there... I am a metalworker through and through, both as a hobby and professionally. And God knows how often shortcuts are actually made...
Whether it’s a bearing ball that compensates for an oversized fit at the top (which is usually where measurements are taken) or using thicker grease to fill an oversized gap, and so on. I could talk for HOURS about this!
It’s the same EVERYWHERE:
You get what you pay for. And on top of that, luck and misfortune come into play 😀
Meaning:
Things can go either way 😉
Construction, mechanical engineering, automotive technology—doesn't matter. There are simply no 100% guarantees in life, and if you want to be sure that your own standards are met, you have to take responsibility to ensure that happens. Whether that requires more money, more supervision, or paying more for supervision is up to each person and each situation. Simply talking people into it rarely works. More likely, it takes luck and common sense 😉
From my (very limited) building experience and current assessment, I also suspect that my expectations are higher than those often found in the construction industry. But that’s why we are looking for a good architect and an independent expert. I will clearly explain to both what my expectations are. They will tell me what is justified and what is not. Ensuring that the justified expectations are met is their job. Of course, I will have to pay for that as well, since I cannot do it myself... such is life
I would say this:
Mistakes will happen during construction! You just need to recognize them early enough and take action. However, you don’t have to immediately threaten legal action, even if you no longer want to see the company or contractor on site. After all, they are only human, and a calm, factual conversation often works wonders.
That said, you really need everything documented in writing… it doesn’t matter if someone said something somewhere sometime.
I also had issues with:
- Masonry
- Roof
- Interior doors
- Interior plaster
- Plumbing
- Electrical work
- Window manufacturer
- Stair builder
- Drywall work in general
As you can see, nearly every trade was involved. Nevertheless, almost all defects were identified and corrected early on. Anything that could no longer be fixed was adjusted as well as possible, and a discount was granted or the warranty was extended by several years.
Mistakes will happen during construction! You just need to recognize them early enough and take action. However, you don’t have to immediately threaten legal action, even if you no longer want to see the company or contractor on site. After all, they are only human, and a calm, factual conversation often works wonders.
That said, you really need everything documented in writing… it doesn’t matter if someone said something somewhere sometime.
I also had issues with:
- Masonry
- Roof
- Interior doors
- Interior plaster
- Plumbing
- Electrical work
- Window manufacturer
- Stair builder
- Drywall work in general
As you can see, nearly every trade was involved. Nevertheless, almost all defects were identified and corrected early on. Anything that could no longer be fixed was adjusted as well as possible, and a discount was granted or the warranty was extended by several years.
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Bieber081529 Aug 2016 22:46Mycraft schrieb:
Mistakes will happen during construction! That’s what we were always told. I’m still waiting for the contractor to explain afterwards what measures were taken to minimize the likelihood of errors occurring.
Mycraft schrieb:
As you can see, practically every trade is involved. Still, almost all defects were detected and corrected early. Why not avoid them in the first place? Wouldn’t that be more relaxing for everyone?
It may be true that something always remains. However, my subjective, non-authoritative impression of the construction process is this — people seem to care somewhat less. No improvement in sight, no learning from mistakes. No measures taken to get better.
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