ᐅ Downpipe Faux Pas...
Created on: 22 Aug 2016 17:48
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Sebastian7925 Aug 2016 14:08Payday schrieb:
Floor-level shower installations with tiles are definitely a very special case.No, why? Please explain what exactly makes it such an “ultra special case.”
Sometimes you really talk nonsense – what do you think people in your profession actually think about you? From your perspective, everyone only wants the best from you (meaning your money) and you assume that everyone has bad intentions.
And that craftsmen are apparently second-class people, just because they supposedly lack intelligence…
Strangely enough, we only had people with brains working on the construction – neighbors too. Architect-designed house, main contractor, general contractor – everything was involved…
Our craftsmen often assume we aren’t paying attention. That’s just how it is. In the end, everyone makes mistakes, but some industries (for example, metalworking) do everything to satisfy the customer, while in construction, there are constantly lame excuses and/or the customer is lied to. And why? Because they don’t expect repeat business and customer satisfaction is given little importance.
But they still want to be paid in full...
Tiled shower floors are quite tricky when it comes to waterproofing. It’s no coincidence that they are the most common cause of flooding in relatively new buildings.
But they still want to be paid in full...
Tiled shower floors are quite tricky when it comes to waterproofing. It’s no coincidence that they are the most common cause of flooding in relatively new buildings.
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Sebastian7925 Aug 2016 15:18Oh, I wasn’t familiar with that statistic before – and immediately flooding 😉. Actually, it’s not a problem if you simply waterproof according to the guidelines – I’ve gone through this three times with the tilers here and was able to watch and have everything clearly explained.
A roof would also be extremely critical, as well as the masonry waterproofing... generally, this also applies to shower waterproofing. Even with a prefabricated element, everything needs to be properly sealed.
Regarding the first paragraph: You probably already have a fixed opinion full of prejudices. It’s a shame, but please don’t keep spreading it again and again – and don’t portray the construction industry as inherently bad. It rather gives the impression that YOU had a cheap, low-quality contractor...
According to that opinion, everyone would be dissatisfied...
A roof would also be extremely critical, as well as the masonry waterproofing... generally, this also applies to shower waterproofing. Even with a prefabricated element, everything needs to be properly sealed.
Regarding the first paragraph: You probably already have a fixed opinion full of prejudices. It’s a shame, but please don’t keep spreading it again and again – and don’t portray the construction industry as inherently bad. It rather gives the impression that YOU had a cheap, low-quality contractor...
According to that opinion, everyone would be dissatisfied...
I agree with @Sebastian79 here.
We had plenty of tradespeople who contributed valuable input during the construction. And quite often, nothing was sold in the process.
Your accusations, @Payday, suggest either that you always chose the cheapest providers, did not specify your orders precisely, or simply made the wrong choices.
There are plenty of high-quality tradespeople. But they do cost money. For that money, however, you get quality. That’s why during the construction phase we were often willing to spend more than the lowest bid would have cost. In return, we received quality and were very satisfied with most of the tradespeople.
We had plenty of tradespeople who contributed valuable input during the construction. And quite often, nothing was sold in the process.
Your accusations, @Payday, suggest either that you always chose the cheapest providers, did not specify your orders precisely, or simply made the wrong choices.
There are plenty of high-quality tradespeople. But they do cost money. For that money, however, you get quality. That’s why during the construction phase we were often willing to spend more than the lowest bid would have cost. In return, we received quality and were very satisfied with most of the tradespeople.
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Bauexperte25 Aug 2016 15:56Payday schrieb:
We have never dared to treat one of our clients the way companies trick homeowners. Ahem... I know quite a few stories related to fall protection. Maybe you shouldn’t be so quick to judge. People make mistakes where they work; to claim that a certain profession never makes mistakes strikes me as rather naive.
Payday schrieb:
... if a tradesperson admits to a legitimate defect found by the homeowner, they will lie. As an engineer in planning, I always think to myself that it must be the case with tradespeople—they just can’t think ahead. I wonder if you would write that under your real name...
Payday schrieb:
I had to report and have a leak fixed three times at the carport. And that’s all that went wrong? Given how much you’re boasting in this post, I would have expected you to be living in a half-finished wreck.
Payday schrieb:
... just a handful of clients and they keep coming back—if the quality is right. That rarely happens in construction... Nope.
Payday schrieb:
Floor-level tiled shower situations are definitely a major special case anyway. Nope.
Regards, Bauexperte
Sgt.Lapdance26 Aug 2016 11:42Sorry for the late reply. It’s due to issues with our internet provider 🙁
The topic was expansion joints....
We will be "moving in" tomorrow. After that, I won’t have time to post here anymore.
Move-in delayed by over one month.
A lot of things are just slapped together and half finished. (Bathroom without silicone sealant)
There is currently no water/toilet. (The pump station has no power connection...)
In the main electrical panel, nothing is labeled to indicate which RCD (residual-current device) corresponds to which room/outlet/switch.
The electrician is a member of the local trade association.
The exterior sockets were "forgotten" – we had ordered and paid for a double socket.
There is already insulation and plaster applied there.
If my wife and I "could," we would undo the contract with this company!
The lawyer’s deadline for completion is Monday (August 29)
Through this forum, I’ve also been in contact with another buyer (same building company), and I haven’t heard anything positive either. Very slow construction progress and seemingly "zero" building experience....
Regards & goodbye
The topic was expansion joints....
We will be "moving in" tomorrow. After that, I won’t have time to post here anymore.
Move-in delayed by over one month.
A lot of things are just slapped together and half finished. (Bathroom without silicone sealant)
There is currently no water/toilet. (The pump station has no power connection...)
In the main electrical panel, nothing is labeled to indicate which RCD (residual-current device) corresponds to which room/outlet/switch.
The electrician is a member of the local trade association.
The exterior sockets were "forgotten" – we had ordered and paid for a double socket.
There is already insulation and plaster applied there.
If my wife and I "could," we would undo the contract with this company!
The lawyer’s deadline for completion is Monday (August 29)
Through this forum, I’ve also been in contact with another buyer (same building company), and I haven’t heard anything positive either. Very slow construction progress and seemingly "zero" building experience....
Regards & goodbye
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