Hello,
now that we have completed construction and moved into our new home, we are probably in the fortunate position to add a carport with a solid shed.
Since we hadn’t planned for this financially before construction started, we have only looked into the topic superficially so far. I have already requested an appointment with the shell builder and don’t want to go there unprepared.
To my knowledge, in Schleswig-Holstein a 9m x 6m (30 ft x 20 ft) structure does not require a building permit / planning permission. We want to make full use of the length, but we cannot fully use the width.
We are thinking of dividing the length into 5m (16.5 ft) for the carport and 4m (13 ft) for the shed.
Here are some questions we have:
1. Gable roof: Why choose a gable roof at all? -> For storage space, e.g., garden furniture, car tires, etc. But we are basically open to alternatives, although none really come to mind. We are struggling with the height and the roof overhang. Preferably both should be as low as possible, as long as it remains practical. I am 1.94m (6 ft 4 in) tall and would like to be able to stand straight up in the middle under the roof. However, this is not a must if something else makes more sense. Our house is 8.5m (28 ft) high and has a roof pitch of 45°. So the roof pitch should only be reduced enough that both roofs still look harmonious. The roof overhang should be kept quite small, e.g., about 30cm (12 inches), so the shed does not get too close to the patio door.
2. Shed material: The shed will not be insulated but should have a facing (cladding). We also want a concrete slab foundation instead of paving. The most practical material for the thinnest wall is probably wood, but I would rather avoid that. What would be an alternative? We could install Ytong (aerated concrete blocks) ourselves, but is another material more suitable? Wall thickness would probably be 17.5cm (7 inches) Ytong + 11.5cm (4.5 inches) facing. This would reduce the usable interior space from roughly 20m² (215 sq ft) outer dimensions to about 17m² (183 sq ft).
3. Positioning:
This is roughly what we have in mind:
We will probably have to “set back” the shed a bit towards the house as shown above. The distance to the patio door is 1.74m (5 ft 9 in), which we naturally do not want to fully use up. Although the house is exactly 5m (16.5 ft) away from the property boundary, the shed will have to be set back because of the roof overhang if we want to keep that 5m distance. Does this make sense to you and seem reasonable?
Probably a bit confusingly written, but I hope it is at least somewhat clear.
now that we have completed construction and moved into our new home, we are probably in the fortunate position to add a carport with a solid shed.
Since we hadn’t planned for this financially before construction started, we have only looked into the topic superficially so far. I have already requested an appointment with the shell builder and don’t want to go there unprepared.
To my knowledge, in Schleswig-Holstein a 9m x 6m (30 ft x 20 ft) structure does not require a building permit / planning permission. We want to make full use of the length, but we cannot fully use the width.
We are thinking of dividing the length into 5m (16.5 ft) for the carport and 4m (13 ft) for the shed.
Here are some questions we have:
1. Gable roof: Why choose a gable roof at all? -> For storage space, e.g., garden furniture, car tires, etc. But we are basically open to alternatives, although none really come to mind. We are struggling with the height and the roof overhang. Preferably both should be as low as possible, as long as it remains practical. I am 1.94m (6 ft 4 in) tall and would like to be able to stand straight up in the middle under the roof. However, this is not a must if something else makes more sense. Our house is 8.5m (28 ft) high and has a roof pitch of 45°. So the roof pitch should only be reduced enough that both roofs still look harmonious. The roof overhang should be kept quite small, e.g., about 30cm (12 inches), so the shed does not get too close to the patio door.
2. Shed material: The shed will not be insulated but should have a facing (cladding). We also want a concrete slab foundation instead of paving. The most practical material for the thinnest wall is probably wood, but I would rather avoid that. What would be an alternative? We could install Ytong (aerated concrete blocks) ourselves, but is another material more suitable? Wall thickness would probably be 17.5cm (7 inches) Ytong + 11.5cm (4.5 inches) facing. This would reduce the usable interior space from roughly 20m² (215 sq ft) outer dimensions to about 17m² (183 sq ft).
3. Positioning:
This is roughly what we have in mind:
We will probably have to “set back” the shed a bit towards the house as shown above. The distance to the patio door is 1.74m (5 ft 9 in), which we naturally do not want to fully use up. Although the house is exactly 5m (16.5 ft) away from the property boundary, the shed will have to be set back because of the roof overhang if we want to keep that 5m distance. Does this make sense to you and seem reasonable?
Probably a bit confusingly written, but I hope it is at least somewhat clear.
pffreestyler schrieb:
I was also surprised that 11.5 cm (4.5 inches) calcium silicate bricks would be sufficient, but when I asked, the structural builder said that the ring beam provides enough rigidity. Do I really have to quote Asterix here? – I find it hard to imagine even the ring beam being feasible on a wall only half a brick thick.
pffreestyler schrieb:
The interior dimensions are currently 4.46 x 3.46 meters (14.6 x 11.4 feet). Is that supposed to fit a smart car? – you’d better draw it out first.
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pffreestyler18 Sep 2019 11:41My friend has ring beams on 11.5 cm (4.5 inches) Ytong blocks in his house. So, there you have it.
Uh, I think we’re talking past each other. The quoted internal measurement is for the shed. A car can almost fit under 5 m (16.4 feet). In an emergency, two cars could fit, but it’s basically intended for just one car.
This is approximately how it’s going to look.
Uh, I think we’re talking past each other. The quoted internal measurement is for the shed. A car can almost fit under 5 m (16.4 feet). In an emergency, two cars could fit, but it’s basically intended for just one car.
This is approximately how it’s going to look.
pffreestyler schrieb:
It should look something like this Ah, okay, then you can consider the wall thickness more relaxed. As shown in the picture, the roof structure rests more on the supports than on the masonry, and the ring beam can also be slimmer.
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pffreestyler18 Sep 2019 12:58Perfect
What are your thoughts on the gable? Wood or anthracite-colored plastic?
Conduit for the wall box inside or outside?
What are your thoughts on the gable? Wood or anthracite-colored plastic?
Conduit for the wall box inside or outside?
pffreestyler schrieb:
What are your thoughts on the gable? Wood or anthracite-colored plastic?Wood, matching the color of the house’s soffit.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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pffreestyler18 Sep 2019 13:31No thanks, that would be white, which wouldn’t look ideal. It will probably come down to a matter of cost anyway.
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