ᐅ 170 m² single-family house in rural Bavaria

Created on: 13 Nov 2020 08:34
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XxTankerxX
Hello everyone,

Now on my second attempt, I believe I’m in the right section of the forum and have also found the questionnaire. I would like to ask for your opinion on my current planning. The overall concept is mostly set, but maybe some details could still be optimized.

Development Plan / Restrictions
Size: 830 m2 (8940 sq ft)
Slope: minimal
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors allowed: unrestricted
Roof style: unrestricted
Design style: unrestricted
Allowed roof colors: everything except violet
Planting requirements: 2 small trees

Client Requirements
Style: modern and traditional combined, gabled roof
Basement, floors: 2 full floors
Number of occupants, age: 2 people in their late 20s (children planned within the next few years)
Office: family use or home office: home office
Annual overnight guests: max. 1
Open or closed architecture: partially open
Conservative or modern construction: a certain mix
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes, pellet stove
Balcony, roof terrace: terrace is sufficient, but it should be covered
Garage or carport: garage with usable space
Utility garden, greenhouse: not planned within the house design

House Design
Designed by:
- Architect
What do you especially like? Why? Large children’s rooms, wellness area in the basement, open kitchen, extra bathroom in the master bedroom
What do you dislike? Why? Nothing comes to mind currently
Estimated price according to architect/planner: /
Personal price limit for house including furnishings: 550,000€
Preferred heating system: pellet stove
Home automation desired: KNX
(but programming will be done by ourselves and should not be overused everywhere)

If you had to give up, which features/expansions
- Can you give up: extra space in the bedroom (which we already have)
- Cannot give up: 2 bathrooms, space for children

Why does the design look like it does now? e.g.
Standard design from the planner? No
Were specific wishes implemented by the architect? Yes
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad? Modern architectural style with traditional/conservative elements.

Attached is the current plan.
Edit: For light reasons, the terrace on the south side will be only 3 m (10 ft) wide instead of 3.5 m (11.5 ft).

Please share your thoughts.

Best regards,
XxTankerxX

Floor plan of a house with garage, kitchen, dining, living, office, WC, entrance hall, pantry, vestibule, terrace


Basement floor plan: wellness area, sauna, pellet heating, corridor; dimensions


Floor plan of a house: master bedroom, child 1, child 2, bathroom, WC/shower, hallway, stairwell.


Four houses in line drawings, views from four directions.
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XxTankerxX
14 Nov 2020 16:01
Correct. I am aware of the lighting situation. As I mentioned before, I initially wanted to add an extra window element at the stair landing height. However, that would end up being quite squeezed into the corner by the garage. Artificial lighting is really manageable. It’s no different in my parents’ house—I’ve never found it to be a problem.
He will live with the consequences.
I completely agree with you.
I want to praise you for two things: first, that the garage has individual doors and no passageway to the house. But—with all due respect to the Bavarian single-roof courtyard—attaching (or rather, the thermally and structurally complex connection) is not going to do you any favors. It would be better to place the main entrance at the end of the hallway, possibly split the staircase unevenly, and maybe provide the basement with only an external access (between the house and garage). Without having a specific model in mind, I would guess that there might be some suitable inspiration in Baufritz’s program for you.
So you mean the entrance on the north side? Hmm… that could still be possible. I’ll give it some thought. Is the thermal issue the only drawback, or do you see other disadvantages? I think good insulation should solve the problem. Besides, there is already a 36cm (14 inch) wall to the garage, which is a standard exterior wall.
11ant14 Nov 2020 16:11
Whether this is really just a matter of personal taste (or rather a lack of experience in translating drawings into a house) when someone places a 1980 Bavarian house in Bavaria 2020, I will cautiously mark with a small question mark.
XxTankerxX schrieb:

So, the entrance on the north side? Hmm... that might still be feasible. I’ll consider it. Is the thermal issue the only problem, or do you see other disadvantages? I think good insulation should solve the problem. In any case, there is already a 36cm (14 inch) wall—meaning a standard exterior wall—next to the garage.

The corridor head is on the north side, even if you position the entrance door on the west. Thermal and structural factors interact here and require at least unnecessary “thermal breaks” if you structurally integrate the thermal envelope with the garage. Wall thickness is only symbolically related to this on the side.
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ypg
14 Nov 2020 18:19
XxTankerxX schrieb:

It’s no different in my parents’ house – I never really thought it was a problem until now.
Weak argument 😉 You’re just used to it from your parents’ house. But you have different expectations in your own home.
XxTankerxX schrieb:

And as I said, initially I wanted to add an extra window element at the stair landing level.
XxTankerxX schrieb:

I actually wanted to have a window element at the stairs, but it would be quite close to the corner by the garage. It would probably look rather awful.

I don’t think a) it would look bad. Although it would be offset on the southeast side, I don’t think it would in any way disrupt the exterior appearance... and/or b) that it would be of no benefit to the hallway.
XxTankerxX schrieb:

I am aware about the lighting situation.

I wasn’t aware that you are aware. If you knowingly accept a disadvantage, that’s fine. It might be balanced out by another benefit. But by having a dark vestibule, a longer hallway without windows, and a staircase with no natural light, you’re basically inviting three light-related drawbacks. Artificial lighting can’t really make up for that.

One thing is the stairs, another is the living area.

Even a glass door would have the disadvantage of lacking privacy. You would be exposed to hallway activities when working in the office. The guest room won’t be used as one, right?
hampshire schrieb:

Artificial light in hallways is manageable.
XxTankerxX schrieb:

And you can really live with artificial light.

One says it’s manageable, the other says you have to deal with it. You’ll have to live with it if you don’t let any natural light into the center of your house. I noticed you don’t even have a window element on the front door. Did you plan a fully glazed front door at all? You’ll have to turn on lights in the vestibule to get to the guest toilet, you’ll need light to use the stairs, and you’ll have to illuminate the main hallway to see anything.

I just think the whole lighting issue would be solved at once if you swapped the entrance area with the office.

Are you also aware that you won’t have any wall cabinets in the kitchen with this kitchen layout? Spices, cups, everything would have to go in base cabinets. Just asking 😉 ... quite a few people have that at the moment. It wouldn’t work for me.
hampshire schrieb:

I don’t see the narrowing hallway on the first floor as a problem, nor the natural light coming from the front.

Neither do I.
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ypg
14 Nov 2020 18:31
I’ll start my good program – maybe I’ll manage to get a few 3D screenshots of your house done within a reasonable time.
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evelinoz
15 Nov 2020 10:39
Neither my daughter, nor I, nor the neighbors have wall cabinets. Why would I put something like that right in front of my eyes when cups, glasses, spices, etc. fit perfectly in drawers?
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ypg
15 Nov 2020 11:00
evelinoz schrieb:

Both my daughter, myself, and neighbors don’t have wall cabinets. Why would I hang something like that right in front of my eyes when cups, glasses, spices, etc., fit into pull-outs?

I know, my daughter doesn’t have any either. But this isn’t about you or your/my daughter or neighbors. I wrote:
ypg schrieb:

Are you also aware that

... by this I mean the original poster (OP).

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