ᐅ Realistic Cost Estimate: Single-Family Home with Challenging Site Access
Created on: 20 Jan 2023 10:50
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schmeissrein
Hello everyone,
I have been following this forum for a while and first of all, a big thank you to everyone who shares their advice here and sometimes also speaks hard truths. I didn’t originally want to create a new thread but intended to form an opinion based on other discussions. However, you convinced me that this building project is too individual for that. So here is our plan:
- Building a new single-family house in the far north of Germany (Schleswig-Flensburg region).
- Plot size is over 1000sqm (10,764 sq ft).
- Total square meters are not so important as long as the layout works.
- Basement is not planned.
What we would like:
- Open-plan kitchen-living area of at least 36m² (388 sq ft).
- Guest room (at least 10m² / 108 sq ft) and small guest bathroom with shower on the ground floor, so that in old age, with disability, or a broken leg, the ground floor can be used independently and possibly serve as a bedroom.
- Utility room / storage room / pantry with heat pump of at least 8m² (86 sq ft) (KfW 40 standard would be great, of course).
- Upper floor with three rooms (1 office, 1 master bedroom, 1 child’s room) each at least 14m² (151 sq ft) and one bathroom. Our dream would be a “walk-in” (what a silly word – aren’t all showers walk-in?) shower to avoid having to clean those limescale-rusty, annoying shower enclosures.
- We could contribute labor for garden landscaping and painting/wallpapering; otherwise, we would prefer a turnkey build.
As for the house style, regionally typical Frisian houses or captain’s houses (with all the “cute” features like small gables, etc.) are in consideration, or also not completely unimaginative “normal” single-family houses. We are not afraid of Bauhaus-style concrete marvels either, but those tend to be more expensive. In terms of fittings, no “gold-plated faucets” and no smart home – but decent and presentable.
The big BUT: the plot is not connected to utilities, and the distance to the street is about 65m (213 ft), of which 50m (164 ft) is a paved driveway and paved parking area that would have to be dug up (across another property). The connection costs and incidental construction costs worry us quite a bit. Does anyone have experience with such a “mammoth connection” for a relatively small building project? What realistic costs should we expect for both?
We would greatly appreciate any thoughts on this project, thank you very much in advance!
I have been following this forum for a while and first of all, a big thank you to everyone who shares their advice here and sometimes also speaks hard truths. I didn’t originally want to create a new thread but intended to form an opinion based on other discussions. However, you convinced me that this building project is too individual for that. So here is our plan:
- Building a new single-family house in the far north of Germany (Schleswig-Flensburg region).
- Plot size is over 1000sqm (10,764 sq ft).
- Total square meters are not so important as long as the layout works.
- Basement is not planned.
What we would like:
- Open-plan kitchen-living area of at least 36m² (388 sq ft).
- Guest room (at least 10m² / 108 sq ft) and small guest bathroom with shower on the ground floor, so that in old age, with disability, or a broken leg, the ground floor can be used independently and possibly serve as a bedroom.
- Utility room / storage room / pantry with heat pump of at least 8m² (86 sq ft) (KfW 40 standard would be great, of course).
- Upper floor with three rooms (1 office, 1 master bedroom, 1 child’s room) each at least 14m² (151 sq ft) and one bathroom. Our dream would be a “walk-in” (what a silly word – aren’t all showers walk-in?) shower to avoid having to clean those limescale-rusty, annoying shower enclosures.
- We could contribute labor for garden landscaping and painting/wallpapering; otherwise, we would prefer a turnkey build.
As for the house style, regionally typical Frisian houses or captain’s houses (with all the “cute” features like small gables, etc.) are in consideration, or also not completely unimaginative “normal” single-family houses. We are not afraid of Bauhaus-style concrete marvels either, but those tend to be more expensive. In terms of fittings, no “gold-plated faucets” and no smart home – but decent and presentable.
The big BUT: the plot is not connected to utilities, and the distance to the street is about 65m (213 ft), of which 50m (164 ft) is a paved driveway and paved parking area that would have to be dug up (across another property). The connection costs and incidental construction costs worry us quite a bit. Does anyone have experience with such a “mammoth connection” for a relatively small building project? What realistic costs should we expect for both?
We would greatly appreciate any thoughts on this project, thank you very much in advance!
I don't think you can generalize from your own experience to others. I don’t know anyone whose children shower for 25 minutes, even when they are older. Locking the door would only be a solution if someone is bothered by a family member coming in. There are families where it doesn’t bother anyone at all if dad sees their bottom.
kati1337 schrieb:
I don’t know anyone whose kids shower for 25 minutes, not even when they’re older. Locking the door would only be a solution if someone in the family is bothered by others coming in. I’ve heard of families where people don’t care at all if dad sees their backside. Haha, I used to think that too!
By now, the teenagers always lock the bathroom door when they’re in there, and sometimes they shower so long that we parents have had to set limits to make sure there’s still warm water for the next person.
In our family, we’ve never locked the bathroom or used it exclusively, and we’ve always taught about saving water and energy, so it can’t be because of that.
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xMisterDx19 May 2023 12:39I would find it quite strange to watch my then 14-year-old daughter showering in eight years while I’m sitting on the toilet. Are there fathers who actually do that?
Even stranger, in my opinion, would be if she lets herself be watched or… even worse, actually enjoys watching me shower.
I’ll just file this under "no understanding of children," even if you have kids yourself…
Even stranger, in my opinion, would be if she lets herself be watched or… even worse, actually enjoys watching me shower.
I’ll just file this under "no understanding of children," even if you have kids yourself…
Tigerlily schrieb:
Meanwhile, the teens always lock the bathroom,Those who lock bathroom doors don’t need paramedics. When the annual bill from the utility company arrives, the whole family shares the additional payment per person (including kids aged twelve and up). Many families are simply missing a responsible figure like Instructor Schmidt.
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KarstenausNRW19 May 2023 14:1711ant schrieb:
Anyone who locks bathroom doors clearly hasn’t dealt with first responders. … or had parents as a teenager who just didn’t get that privacy and personal space are very important at that age.
My three also leave all their doors unlocked. But it’s a given to knock or ask for permission before entering. For us, the question of locking doors has never come up.
Instead of mocking each other or rigidly applying your own children’s behavior to everyone else's, we could simply agree that there is more than one type of teenager.
Of course, you can’t predict how they’ll turn out later on. If my children act out as teens, I’ll deal with the problem when it happens. There are still a few years left until then.
Of course, you can’t predict how they’ll turn out later on. If my children act out as teens, I’ll deal with the problem when it happens. There are still a few years left until then.
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