ᐅ Installation of a Gas Heating System in New Construction 2023/2024
Created on: 11 Apr 2023 14:47
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robert0815
Hello fellow home builders,
we have started constructing a single-family house. The approved building permit / planning permission includes a gas heating system, which we still want to install.
There are two possible scenarios:
1. What happens if the heating system is installed in October 2023, but the house is only inspected and approved in February 2024?
2. What happens if the heating system is installed in January 2024, and the house is inspected and approved in May 2024?
Both options are difficult to plan for. So far, we do not know whether the construction schedule might be delayed.
I haven't found any information on this. Do you have any further details?
Regards,
robert0815
we have started constructing a single-family house. The approved building permit / planning permission includes a gas heating system, which we still want to install.
There are two possible scenarios:
1. What happens if the heating system is installed in October 2023, but the house is only inspected and approved in February 2024?
2. What happens if the heating system is installed in January 2024, and the house is inspected and approved in May 2024?
Both options are difficult to plan for. So far, we do not know whether the construction schedule might be delayed.
I haven't found any information on this. Do you have any further details?
Regards,
robert0815
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RotorMotor12 Apr 2023 14:45xMisterDx schrieb:
Where is this electricity supposed to come from? Most of it, of course, from renewable sources.The rest can be generated from gas. This can be stored efficiently and converted to electricity with an efficiency of 50-60%.
So even if we generated all the electricity for heat pumps from gas, we would still save half compared to burning fuel directly at home.
And even last December, 40% of electricity in Germany was generated from renewables.
What is wrong with some users, really? Sometimes I get criticized on this site because my diesel consumes 7.6 liters (2 gallons), and then there are statements like that about heat pumps?
If your neighbors with heat pumps use up the electricity, there won’t be any left for you either. Your gas heating also only works with electricity. Now, if a black start-capable inverter is introduced: if we experience a prolonged period of low wind and solar output, it won’t help you either.
So it all comes down to the same thing. You have to go with the flow of electricity.
@TE: What is your reasoning then?
Please also consider, in addition to our argument about the “new old building,” that you will switch to a heat pump later anyway. Otherwise, you would have to dig up your garden, driveway, etc., again for the groundwork for the foundation, piping, and wall breakthrough. Adapting a new monoblock unit (or whatever will be state-of-the-art by then) to existing underfloor heating pipes designed for a heat pump is quite challenging.
xMisterDx schrieb:
Where is this electricity supposed to come from? We already buy coal power today because we can’t store any.
If your neighbors with heat pumps use up the electricity, there won’t be any left for you either. Your gas heating also only works with electricity. Now, if a black start-capable inverter is introduced: if we experience a prolonged period of low wind and solar output, it won’t help you either.
So it all comes down to the same thing. You have to go with the flow of electricity.
@TE: What is your reasoning then?
Please also consider, in addition to our argument about the “new old building,” that you will switch to a heat pump later anyway. Otherwise, you would have to dig up your garden, driveway, etc., again for the groundwork for the foundation, piping, and wall breakthrough. Adapting a new monoblock unit (or whatever will be state-of-the-art by then) to existing underfloor heating pipes designed for a heat pump is quite challenging.
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robert081512 Apr 2023 18:15@OWLer
In this thread, I found only one attempt to answer my question, and that was from @Reggert.
I do not owe anyone an explanation and do not want to discuss the heating method of our house with you; I simply asked two questions about the new legislative draft.
Best regards
In this thread, I found only one attempt to answer my question, and that was from @Reggert.
I do not owe anyone an explanation and do not want to discuss the heating method of our house with you; I simply asked two questions about the new legislative draft.
Best regards
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KarstenausNRW12 Apr 2023 18:52robert0815 schrieb:
I have only found one attempt to answer my question in this thread. And that was from @Reggert.
I am not accountable to anyone and do not want to discuss the heating method of our house with you, but I only asked two questions about the new draft law. Here is a short and clear answer.
You are still allowed to install your gas boiler in 2024 if—however—you can ensure from 01.01.2024 that you meet the 65% renewable energy share requirement.
In practice, this means: from 01.01.2024, you MUST change your planning and switch to a heat pump, regardless of what you have ordered or received approval for.
Question answered? As far as I know, hardship regulations for you are not yet provided. You can already plan today and prepare accordingly.
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motorradsilke12 Apr 2023 19:46KarstenausNRW schrieb:
Here is a short and clear answer.
You are allowed to install your gas boiler in 2024 if you can – in any way – ensure a 65% renewable energy share starting from 01.01.2024.
In practical terms, this means: from 01.01.2024, you MUST change your planning and switch to a heat pump. No matter what you have ordered or obtained approval for.
Question answered? As far as I know, no hardship exemption rules are planned for you so far. You can already plan and prepare today. IF the law is passed as is.
As already mentioned, it is still a draft. There has been a lot of opposition, so I wouldn’t be so sure it will pass like this. But you never know.
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