ᐅ Installation of a Gas Heating System in New Construction 2023/2024
Created on: 11 Apr 2023 14:47
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robert0815
Hello fellow home builders,
we have started constructing a single-family house. The approved building permit / planning permission includes a gas heating system, which we still want to install.
There are two possible scenarios:
1. What happens if the heating system is installed in October 2023, but the house is only inspected and approved in February 2024?
2. What happens if the heating system is installed in January 2024, and the house is inspected and approved in May 2024?
Both options are difficult to plan for. So far, we do not know whether the construction schedule might be delayed.
I haven't found any information on this. Do you have any further details?
Regards,
robert0815
we have started constructing a single-family house. The approved building permit / planning permission includes a gas heating system, which we still want to install.
There are two possible scenarios:
1. What happens if the heating system is installed in October 2023, but the house is only inspected and approved in February 2024?
2. What happens if the heating system is installed in January 2024, and the house is inspected and approved in May 2024?
Both options are difficult to plan for. So far, we do not know whether the construction schedule might be delayed.
I haven't found any information on this. Do you have any further details?
Regards,
robert0815
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Probigmac24 Apr 2023 18:19xMisterDx schrieb:
But that won’t help you at all if, as I said, the installer tells you on January 2, 2024:
“I’m risking my certification if I install or commission this now. Sorry.” Worst-case scenario: I have to retrofit a heat pump in 2024. A hybrid system is still allowed—plus we need the gas heater for the swim spa and the hot tub, which will be operated year-round. Energy-wise, it consumes about as much as the entire house.
That’s partly why I find this whole discussion so absurd. Be that as it may.
Probigmac schrieb:
After 1.5 years of planning and redesigning for the third time (KfW 55, KfW 40, and now the Building Energy Act), I’m simply fed up. I had actually planned to use the KfW subsidies: 25 kWp photovoltaic system, 12 kWh battery for myself and the tenant in the granny flat, and a heat pump.
Because of Mr. Habeck, I’ve now ended up with gas and a smaller house (since my budget in € is unfortunately limited). Just another subsidy seeker with a pseudo granny flat to get the maximum funding. And of course, Mr. Habeck is solely to blame for everything. It would have made more sense to go straight for the Building Energy Act with a heat pump if you didn’t want to chase the maximum subsidy.
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xMisterDx24 Apr 2023 21:00Probigmac schrieb:
Worst case scenario: I have to retrofit a heat pump in 2024.No. You will then have to buy either a heat pump or a hybrid heating system. Simply saying, "Yes, I will buy another heat pump and install it alongside, I promise," won’t be enough—your gas boiler will not be allowed to operate. Current delivery times for heat pumps vary by model but are around 12 to 18 months.
Please be aware of this. The worst-case scenario is that in January 2024 you scrap your fully paid gas boiler and order a heat pump that will only arrive around mid-2025… because orders will skyrocket from January onwards.
By the way, this is already the case in Schleswig-Holstein. Installers are no longer permitted to install new gas boilers, even if this means customers are left without heating for 12 months.
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WilderSueden24 Apr 2023 22:37I find it absurd when people complain about Habeck but then build a swimming pool complex. It really can't be that tight with the money 😉
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xMisterDx24 Apr 2023 23:20Aha. Habeck is not to blame for anything initially. The de facto ban on gas heating systems was already planned for 2025; the Green Party is just bringing it forward by one year.
The outrage mainly comes from the fact that a politician is actually doing what he promised before the election.
Everyone expected that there would be a last-minute retreat. Which would also be understandable, because neither the grid, nor the generation capacity, and certainly not the storage capacity, are currently sufficient to widely rely on heat pumps.
Scheduled power outages of up to 8 hours per day will not change that. The problem is not the distribution lines, but the available amount of electrical energy.
At the moment, you can imagine it as if agricultural products cannot be stored but must be consumed immediately after harvest. This works quite well from spring to autumn, but in winter it becomes a problem.
We cannot even store electricity or electrical energy in Germany for a whole day.
The outrage mainly comes from the fact that a politician is actually doing what he promised before the election.
Everyone expected that there would be a last-minute retreat. Which would also be understandable, because neither the grid, nor the generation capacity, and certainly not the storage capacity, are currently sufficient to widely rely on heat pumps.
Scheduled power outages of up to 8 hours per day will not change that. The problem is not the distribution lines, but the available amount of electrical energy.
At the moment, you can imagine it as if agricultural products cannot be stored but must be consumed immediately after harvest. This works quite well from spring to autumn, but in winter it becomes a problem.
We cannot even store electricity or electrical energy in Germany for a whole day.
xMisterDx schrieb:
That would also be understandable, since neither the grid nor the generation capacity—and especially not the storage capacity—are currently sufficient to rely on heat pumps everywhere.The level of certainty with which you present these matters is quite bold. This is certainly not the general consensus—except perhaps among readers of BILD. As if the Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Climate Action had no real experts or numerous expert reports. But of course MisterDx knows best. This forum can really be frustrating at times. And not to mention the original poster.
The transition will happen gradually, just like the expansion of the grids, storage systems, and generation facilities.
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