ᐅ Installation of a Gas Heating System in New Construction 2023/2024

Schorsch_baut schrieb:

So far, I have only been silently following the discussion because I was hoping to find information on gas heating, and I don’t see much value in off-topic debates like these. The amount of nonsense and pseudoscience being shared here surpasses some Facebook articles. I thought this forum was about building topics?

I’m curious about the approximate age of people who write and judge like this. Mid-50s? Older?
I’m in my early 40s, as is my wife. We have two children, one in elementary school and one about to start school. So far, I haven’t seen any far-left extremist school materials in Baden-Württemberg. And no, thanks, to a nationalist upbringing if that’s what someone dreams of. I prefer an education for my children that prepares them for the coming decades, not for life in the 1970s or 1950s.

And yes, I find the concept of life-work balance very meaningful, as we both work—currently full-time and 80% part-time—and are reaching our limits. It seems to me that only people without children or in single-income households complain about life-work balance. And I’m not talking about the financial side here. A day only has 24 hours, and even with family support, it’s impossible to fit everything that modern life demands. My wife’s employer now wants full office presence again—after all, why else build the building? 🙄 My employer will only allow home office one day per week. We almost long for the COVID times, and we will probably have to cut back on volunteering and sports because there’s no other way. My wife will likely have to reduce her working hours, and I can already hear the boss complaining.

If this country is going downhill economically, it’s due to the “we’ve never done it this way” and “where would this lead” mentality. Economically successful countries are not those running like it’s 1980.

So you want it all: house, children, and little work.
Sorry, but honestly, I have little sympathy if the only thing you have to cut back on is sports or volunteering. Tell that to your grandparents—they would laugh at you.

And there is, unfortunately, no fundamental right to work from home for you either. What are people supposed to say who work at Aldi or in production somewhere?
Don’t get me wrong, I also like to use these options. But it is a privilege, not a right.

chand1986 schrieb:

I can only fully speak from my own subject areas.

But it is completely normal that in subjects like politics, history, social sciences, etc., texts are studied that convey a particular viewpoint from the author. This HAS to be the case. In school, there is the concept of "evaluating" or "taking a position": Students are expected to engage with the viewpoints of others and, through that, develop their own stance. Rejection, agreement, or neutrality are all allowed. The requirement is that this must be justified.

I also find it normal and important that on the one hand, you compare speeches by Nazi leaders, and on the other, you engage with essays by, for example, Rosa Luxemburg. In German class, you also read literary fiction that reflects attitudes we wouldn’t share today. Some of those books are considered world literature.

So, as long as you can’t tell me WHAT exactly should be done with which text in a final exam, everything sounds quite normal. Engaging critically with material intended to indoctrinate is an educational goal—and rightly so.

As long as it is possible to critically engage in the analysis: all good. But that is exactly what is not yet clear.

And as soon as it ends like this, it’s no longer amusing:

Student parliament at FU Berlin: Those who don’t use gender-neutral language may not submit requests.

By analogy: those who criticize the essay get lower grades.

Lord, use your brain…

How many hours one wants to work is a personal choice. No one should impose working hours on you just because the nation has to be “competitive” with someone. Has to? WANTS to! And those who want to can certainly work more – what’s the problem?

This is possible because competitiveness also shows in the prosperity one may voluntarily give up if needed. Otherwise, it is regulated by the “exchange rate” factor. If a population refrains from wage cost increases, the currency development reflects this through corresponding devaluation or lack of appreciation. THIS determines competitive international prices. Because competitiveness at this level is a relative concept.

And if companies can gain absolute advantages, for example by combining Western technology with local wages in Bangladesh or Nigeria, then the best labor market in the world with 60-hour weeks won’t help – some things simply won’t be done under German conditions. Anyone who still wants that must also adopt the standards of Bangladesh – great idea.

Regarding volunteering: Volunteer support of all kinds prevented the complete decline of young people from difficult backgrounds during the COVID lockdown. For society, this is a thousand times more valuable than four extra hours stocking shelves at Aldi so you can still find strawberries on display at 8 p.m. in winter. Do you even realize how much paid dirty work there is compared to unpaid valuable activity?
(but then talk about indoctrination in schools, cool!)

Snowy36 schrieb:

As long as it is possible to critically engage with the analysis: all is well. But precisely that is not yet clear.

And once it ends like this, it’s simply no longer funny:

Student parliament of FU Berlin: Anyone who does not use gender-neutral language cannot submit requests.

Similarly: anyone who criticizes the essay receives a lower grade.

So, do you now have the specific example that you claimed proves indoctrination in schools or not?

Of course, critical engagement with content is the central aspect through which all kinds of ideological texts are studied in schools.

chand1986 schrieb:

So, do you now have the specific example you claimed proves indoctrination in schools, or not?

Of course, critical engagement with content is the central aspect through which all kinds of ideological texts are read in schools.

As I said before, this is not yet clear in my example; the CDU’s inquiry is still ongoing. And I gave an example of indoctrination at universities. If that’s not enough for you, unfortunately I can’t help you further.

For me, there is a negative implication in having to analyze Luisa Neubauer. No one discusses an essay by an AfD member like that, right?

chand1986 schrieb:

Man, use your brain…

How many hours someone wants to work is a personal choice. No one should impose working hours on others just because a nation has to be "competitive" with someone else. Has to? WANTS TO! And if someone wants to work more, that’s perfectly fine—where’s the problem?

This is possible because competitiveness also reflects the wealth that people voluntarily give up if necessary. Otherwise, it is regulated by the factor of "exchange rate." If a population forgoes increases in unit labor costs, the currency’s development reflects this through corresponding devaluation or non-appreciation. THAT determines internationally competitive prices. Because competitiveness at this level is a relative concept.

And if companies can gain absolute advantages, for example by combining Western technology with local wages in Bangladesh or Nigeria, the best labor market in the world with 60-hour weeks won’t help—certain things simply won’t be done under German conditions. If you want that anyway, you also have to adopt the standards of Bangladesh—that’s a great idea.

Regarding volunteering: volunteer activities of all kinds prevented the total decline of young people from difficult backgrounds during the corona lockdown. This is a thousand times more valuable for society than spending 4 extra hours stocking shelves at Aldi, just so you can still find strawberries in the display at 8 p.m. in winter. Do you even realize how much paid dirty work there is, but also unpaid valuable work?
(But then you talk about indoctrination at school, cool!)

Honestly, I find you really amusing. Have you thought about what would happen if everyone worked like you? Then you show up at the hospital with a broken leg, and the sign says: sorry, work-life balance.