ᐅ Installation of a Gas Heating System in New Construction 2023/2024

Of course, this will happen gradually. But a ban starting on January 1, 2024, is too drastic and not gradual at all.

Strangely, this is not done with combustion engines. Even the most ideological advocates understand that you cannot just allow only electric vehicles starting from January 1, 2024.

Although passenger cars have about the same lifespan as modern heating systems. A combustion engine vehicle produced today will still be on the road well into the 2040s.

But please, explain to me where you are supposed to get the electricity for your heat pump on a cold winter night? From the rooftop photovoltaic system? Surely not 😉

Also:
Reports usually say what I want to hear. Because the biggest question is unfortunately ignored...
Who is supposed to pay for all of this?
Very few people have 100,000 EUR (about 108,000 USD) in their safe for an energy renovation.

And where does January 1, 2024 come from? Ms. Geywitz said on Anne Will that the heat pump manufacturers demanded it because otherwise the market would be lost to the Asians. Producing too little while demand is high equals high prices and high profit margins!

Apolyxo schrieb:

The confidence with which you present these things is quite bold. This is certainly not the consensus—except maybe among readers of BILD. As if the BMWK has no real experts and numerous reports. But of course, MisterDx has it all figured out. Sometimes this forum is really frustrating. Not to mention the original poster.

The transition will happen gradually, just like the expansion of networks, storage, and generation facilities.

If you’re going to put others down here, start with yourself. If you still haven’t noticed anything about the supposed experts and reports since 2020, then there’s really no helping you. You can easily look up in Focus who prepares the reports for Habeck and Co and fills their pockets. The money stays within the family. Just not yours.

xMisterDx schrieb:

Of course, this will happen gradually. But a ban starting on 1.1.2024 is very abrupt and not "gradual" at all.

Starting in 2027, emissions trading will also be introduced in the building sector. At that point, "the market" will determine the price of CO2, for example, on gas. Forecasts range between 200-300€ per ton (220-330 USD per ton), depending on which source you trust. Currently, the CO2 price is set at 30€ per ton (33 USD per ton).

There would have been enough time for a gradual transition if the last 10 years had not been wasted. A ban on gas heating in new construction (which is actually not entirely accurate, by the way) is simply self-protection for those who still haven’t realized how expensive gas will soon become.

Snowy36 schrieb:

If you still haven’t noticed anything about the so-called experts and reports since 2020, then there’s really no helping you.

The consistently fossil-fuel-friendly CDU wanted to take this step one year later (in 2025), by the way based on the expertise within the ministry and reports that are being so unfairly smeared here. That is, of course, a huge difference. Probably real, because despite the absolute necessity, the CDU would likely have simply given in.

So what is this nonsense here? I get the impression that some want to justify their past and future wrong decisions. They even portray themselves as saviors of the power grid because they chose gas boilers in new construction against the mainstream, relying on their own supposedly superior knowledge.

But you can clearly see how the smear campaign by the relevant parties and ultimately the lobby pays off when new builds are willingly equipped with outdated technology. Even against better knowledge, claiming "technologically mature, but I know better myself and will save the power grid."

Completely ridiculous.

You are welcome to use your heat pump, just let others have their gas system and answer the questions asked, or simply don’t.