Hello everyone...
After our first floor plan attempt failed completely, we worked with the architect to develop two more ground floor versions and one for the upper floor. I would like to know which ones you find good or bad, and what you generally like or dislike about the floor plans?! Also, the pantry door is drawn a bit oddly; it won’t actually look like that...
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size approximately 480 square meters (5167 square feet)
Slope: No
Floor area ratio: No
Building coverage ratio: No
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 19 meters (62 feet)
Edge development: No
Number of parking spaces:
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof shape: gable roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: terrace to the west, bay window to the south
Maximum heights/limits:
Additional specifications:
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type:
Basement, floors: no basement
Number of occupants, ages: 2
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: family use or home office?
Occasional guests per year: family occasionally
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern building method:
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen
Number of dining seats:
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace:
Garage, carport:
Utility garden, greenhouse:
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House design
Who created the plan:
- Planner from a construction company
- Architect: yes
- Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like and why?
What do you not like and why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating system:
Heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details or extensions:
- can you do without
- cannot do without:
Open kitchen, guest room, window in every room
After our first floor plan attempt failed completely, we worked with the architect to develop two more ground floor versions and one for the upper floor. I would like to know which ones you find good or bad, and what you generally like or dislike about the floor plans?! Also, the pantry door is drawn a bit oddly; it won’t actually look like that...
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size approximately 480 square meters (5167 square feet)
Slope: No
Floor area ratio: No
Building coverage ratio: No
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 19 meters (62 feet)
Edge development: No
Number of parking spaces:
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof shape: gable roof
Architectural style: modern
Orientation: terrace to the west, bay window to the south
Maximum heights/limits:
Additional specifications:
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof shape, building type:
Basement, floors: no basement
Number of occupants, ages: 2
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor
Office: family use or home office?
Occasional guests per year: family occasionally
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern building method:
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen
Number of dining seats:
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace:
Garage, carport:
Utility garden, greenhouse:
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House design
Who created the plan:
- Planner from a construction company
- Architect: yes
- Do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like and why?
What do you not like and why?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating system:
Heat pump
If you have to give up something, which details or extensions:
- can you do without
- cannot do without:
Open kitchen, guest room, window in every room
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Ev-Marie8622 May 2017 22:20When I posted this here, it was probably already the eighth time... we had no idea and no help... thankfully and by chance, I came across this forum... Since everything was "torn apart" ... we only visited her once... But what came out of that was even worse...
Now I am hoping for the new, improved version, developed together with all of you...
Now I am hoping for the new, improved version, developed together with all of you...
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zwei&vierzig22 May 2017 22:25Ev-Marie86 schrieb:
When I posted it here, I think it was already the eighth version. Beginner :P We had three architects, and each had about ten attempts.
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Ev-Marie8622 May 2017 22:39and now I already feel a bit guilty...
Well, I hope it will work out soon... I'm slowly getting tired of moving stairs and walls around
Well, I hope it will work out soon... I'm slowly getting tired of moving stairs and walls around
You don’t need to create a finalized drawing right away.
Usually, it’s enough to make repeated sketches, erase, move furniture templates, erase again, reduce a corner, sometimes enlarge the scale, add a corner back, keep trusting your instincts, and after a few weeks you’ll know which option is bad, which one is okay, and which is the best.
You then discuss the best version so you can make small adjustments. Only after that do you create a finalized drawing.
Regards, Yvonne
Usually, it’s enough to make repeated sketches, erase, move furniture templates, erase again, reduce a corner, sometimes enlarge the scale, add a corner back, keep trusting your instincts, and after a few weeks you’ll know which option is bad, which one is okay, and which is the best.
You then discuss the best version so you can make small adjustments. Only after that do you create a finalized drawing.
Regards, Yvonne
zwei&vierzig schrieb:
Beginner We had three architects, and each had about ten attempts.As I already mentioned in your thread, this has simple reasons (which apply here as well). When your expectations for the house and the plot of land are two completely different things, the number of attempts until you understand that can become nearly infinite. Conversely, with every mental block you are ready to break down, you get closer to resolving the problem.
Basically, it’s not difficult:
You start by realizing that it’s no shame that people don’t just have different blood types and eye colors, but also different spatial imaginations.
Then you take a tape measure and sketch your current apartment to scale. You know these rooms—you know where it’s spacious and where it’s tight—so you overlay that knowledge with the dimensions.
Next, you grab some craft scissors and cut out your furniture from cardboard, using an appropriate scale (for example, 1:25).
With painter’s tape, you can mark on the floor how much actual walking space there is around the bed and in front of the wardrobe.
All of this won’t necessarily lead to a “Eureka” moment on the first try. But it can definitely save you from a dozen huge design failures.
An architect (a professional house designer), who still makes ten unsuccessful attempts, either isn’t listening or doesn’t dare to talk the client out of the most unrealistic ideas.
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I don’t understand the architect who immediately produces a final, submission-ready drawing.
We have tried numerous designs with and without an architect—sketched in pencil, moved furniture around, tested ideas, found solutions, discarded others, and so on.
Even the architect’s drawings were more like preliminary sketches rather than fully dimensioned, finalized plans, and that was perfectly fine. I don’t quite understand why this architect expects finished plans right from the start.
I can understand if she eventually gets upset, though. If I remember correctly, she’s an architect employed by the main contractor, right? In that case, there is usually a fixed budget allocated for the design phase. You’ve probably already exceeded that *g*.
But don’t let them brush you off. This is not your fault. As an experienced planner, I know the development phase takes time, and during this phase, I don’t bother producing submission-ready plans.
Maybe in future, you could tell the architect that you’ll notify her once you consider the planning complete, and only then should the detailed drawings be prepared.
We have tried numerous designs with and without an architect—sketched in pencil, moved furniture around, tested ideas, found solutions, discarded others, and so on.
Even the architect’s drawings were more like preliminary sketches rather than fully dimensioned, finalized plans, and that was perfectly fine. I don’t quite understand why this architect expects finished plans right from the start.
I can understand if she eventually gets upset, though. If I remember correctly, she’s an architect employed by the main contractor, right? In that case, there is usually a fixed budget allocated for the design phase. You’ve probably already exceeded that *g*.
But don’t let them brush you off. This is not your fault. As an experienced planner, I know the development phase takes time, and during this phase, I don’t bother producing submission-ready plans.
Maybe in future, you could tell the architect that you’ll notify her once you consider the planning complete, and only then should the detailed drawings be prepared.
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