Dear forum members,
I have purchased an apartment from a developer. The standard specifications are already quite generous (e.g., tiles in the size of 60x60cm (24x24 inches) as standard).
However, I have now chosen even larger tile formats. Do you consider the following additional charges for installation to be reasonable (pure labor costs, additional charges for other items are separate):
- Extra charge for laying floor tiles 80x80cm (32x32 inches) instead of 60x60cm (24x24 inches): EUR 22 plus VAT per sqm (square meter)
- Extra charge for laying large format wall tiles 120x240cm (48x96 inches) instead of 30x60cm (12x24 inches): EUR 93 plus VAT per sqm
We are talking about approximately 19sqm (204 sq ft) of flooring and 35sqm (377 sq ft) of wall area in two bathrooms.
These price increases seem extremely high to me.
Regards,
Sven1969
I have purchased an apartment from a developer. The standard specifications are already quite generous (e.g., tiles in the size of 60x60cm (24x24 inches) as standard).
However, I have now chosen even larger tile formats. Do you consider the following additional charges for installation to be reasonable (pure labor costs, additional charges for other items are separate):
- Extra charge for laying floor tiles 80x80cm (32x32 inches) instead of 60x60cm (24x24 inches): EUR 22 plus VAT per sqm (square meter)
- Extra charge for laying large format wall tiles 120x240cm (48x96 inches) instead of 30x60cm (12x24 inches): EUR 93 plus VAT per sqm
We are talking about approximately 19sqm (204 sq ft) of flooring and 35sqm (377 sq ft) of wall area in two bathrooms.
These price increases seem extremely high to me.
Regards,
Sven1969
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werners8130 Nov 2017 08:12Hello Herr_bau,
I had reached the same point. However, this doesn’t help me much in this situation. The trade was assigned to the main contractor as part of the purchase contract. I am reluctant to contact other companies without giving them a fair chance to receive the order. I consider that unfair.
That’s why I asked the forum here.
I had reached the same point. However, this doesn’t help me much in this situation. The trade was assigned to the main contractor as part of the purchase contract. I am reluctant to contact other companies without giving them a fair chance to receive the order. I consider that unfair.
That’s why I asked the forum here.
werners81 schrieb:
Hello Herr_bau,
I had reached the same point. However, this doesn’t help me much in this situation. The trade was awarded to the general contractor as part of the purchase contract. I’m reluctant to contact other companies without giving the original contractor a chance to secure the contract. I consider that unfair.
That’s why I’m asking here in the forum.No worries. Forums like this often involve a lot of “half-knowledge” (myself included). But I hope you’ll get some useful answers. My tile work isn’t scheduled for another 3-5 months, but from what I feel, the markups are too high. I think €120 (about $130) all-in per square meter is the maximum reasonable price, though of course it depends on the region and the type of tile itself...
When building with a general contractor, you will have to accept this. Alternatively, you can remove the trade, receive a small credit, and then subcontract it yourself.
Ideally, remove the trade before signing the contract if the additional cost seems too high. It is always more difficult afterwards.
Ideally, remove the trade before signing the contract if the additional cost seems too high. It is always more difficult afterwards.
What is actually included with the general contractor?
Usually, it is just the hallway, kitchen, bathrooms, and utility room.
The rest is handled by the trades, meaning you can choose. In this respect, it makes sense to opt for this credit since most of it is not managed by the general contractor.
Of course, when rooms flow into each other, it’s common to go for an “all-in-one” solution, but the subcontractor probably doesn’t care and might even be happy to have capacity available for better jobs.
Usually, it is just the hallway, kitchen, bathrooms, and utility room.
The rest is handled by the trades, meaning you can choose. In this respect, it makes sense to opt for this credit since most of it is not managed by the general contractor.
Of course, when rooms flow into each other, it’s common to go for an “all-in-one” solution, but the subcontractor probably doesn’t care and might even be happy to have capacity available for better jobs.
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R.Hotzenplotz2 Dec 2017 20:22In my case, the general contractor contract included tiling of 130.5m² (1405 sq ft).
The material cost is €40 (about $43) per square meter, which totals €5,220 (around $5,630). Installation costs for tiles up to 30x60cm (12x24 inches) are included with no extra charge. The potential credit amount for excluding this trade exceeds the material cost by more than double. Therefore, I am curious about the typical costs one would expect for the installation to better understand the credit amount. This also includes the sloped screed in the shower areas.
By the way, the offer does not include baseboards.
The material cost is €40 (about $43) per square meter, which totals €5,220 (around $5,630). Installation costs for tiles up to 30x60cm (12x24 inches) are included with no extra charge. The potential credit amount for excluding this trade exceeds the material cost by more than double. Therefore, I am curious about the typical costs one would expect for the installation to better understand the credit amount. This also includes the sloped screed in the shower areas.
By the way, the offer does not include baseboards.
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