ᐅ Planning kitchen appliances: How to approach it. The market is overwhelming.

Created on: 11 Sep 2017 12:34
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G-Star1988
Hello everyone,

I have an appointment at the kitchen studio next Saturday and I’m preparing for it. Specifically, I’m looking for the appliances I want to have later in the kitchen. I’ve been researching a lot from brands like Neff / Siemens, Miele, Bora, etc., but I’m not making much progress.

For example, the current selection at Siemens looks like this:

Dishwasher IQ300 SN636X03MD
Oven IQ700 HB634GBS1
Microwave IQ500 HF15M264
Cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor EX801LX34E
or
2 x Cooktop IQ700 EX375FXB1E with extractor IQ700 LF16VA570

(The cooktop with integrated downdraft is the only fixed requirement, unfortunately I don’t have any influence on that ^^)

I actually value quality, energy efficiency, and a balanced price-performance ratio. But how can I find out if what you pick is really good? Or if there are possibly cheaper but equally high-quality products from other manufacturers. For example, the cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor from Miele—according to the catalog, it’s cheaper but just as good or even better?

How do you approach this?
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Knallkörper
16 Sep 2017 15:32
Of course. I have personally ordered some of this type online before, because a few were missing in my kitchen and IKEA isn’t exactly nearby. They are completely identical. The push-on dampers, by the way, are the same as well. I don’t deny that there might be better options, for example, damping inside the hinge cup.
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Grym
16 Sep 2017 15:34
G-Star1988 schrieb:
Hello everyone,

I have an appointment at the kitchen showroom this coming Saturday and I’m preparing for it. Specifically, I’m trying to select the appliances I want to have installed later in the kitchen. I’ve looked a lot at NEFF / Siemens, Miele, Bora, etc., but I’m still not sure how to proceed.

For example, the current selection at Siemens looks like this:

Dishwasher IQ300 SN636X03MD
Oven IQ700 HB634GBS1
Microwave IQ500 HF15M264
Cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor EX801LX34E
or
2 x cooktop IQ700 EX375FXB1E with extractor IQ700 LF16VA570

(The cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor is the only fixed option that I can’t change, unfortunately ^^)

I’m focused on quality, efficiency, and a balanced price-performance ratio. But how do I find out if the appliances I choose are actually good? Or if there are possibly cheaper yet equally high-quality products from other manufacturers? For example, the cooktop with integrated downdraft extractor from Miele is listed as cheaper in the catalog, but is it just as good or even better?

How do you approach this?

I think BSH offers a good price-performance ratio, and each appliance brand typically has special features that increase the price the more you add.

For us, features like pyrolytic self-cleaning for the oven, integrated microwave, and telescopic pull-out were important. Plus, a decent 60cm (24 inch) steam oven. Dishwasher separate, great and especially quiet because of the open kitchen, and with a cutlery drawer instead of a basket. Refrigerator with a 0-degree fresh zone. We simply chose the cheapest appliances that met all these requirements. In the end, we only decided against internet connectivity and larger displays, as these features weren’t relevant to us.

By the way, downdraft extractors generally don’t work very well, but that’s another topic.
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Grym
16 Sep 2017 15:39
Knallkörper schrieb:
Of course. I have ordered some of this type online myself because a few were missing from my kitchen, and Ikea isn’t exactly around the corner. They are completely identical in construction. The dampers for snapping on are the same, by the way. I don’t deny that there are better options out there, for example, damping integrated into the hinge cup.

So the point was that these IKEA parts are manufactured using less material. Maybe they look the same on the outside, but the materials used might be less dense, less durable, less resistant, and so on.

So in terms of quality, definitely a step below brands like Burger, Impuls, Pino, or Wellmann.

It’s similar to the budget lines from major ceramic manufacturers. Nordlys doesn’t want to admit it, but even there (according to an employee from the development department!), the cheaper lines are produced differently, which is why they are less expensive.
KingSong16 Sep 2017 15:40
What is it with everyone and Nobilia? Nobilia is generally considered to be at the lower end of quality in kitchen studios. When I talk about a kitchen studio kitchen, I mean brands like Nolte, ProNorm, Häcker, Schmidt, or Leicht kitchens...
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Nordlys
16 Sep 2017 15:47
As an end customer, I honestly don't care whether the hinges are from Blum, Tsingtao Industries, or Wiszewsky, as long as they do what they are supposed to do. When you buy a kitchen worth around 5,000 euros, you don't expect high-end quality, just everyday functionality. This high-end obsession is really more of a male phenomenon—I’m reminded of the Hi-Fi forums, as if anyone actually notices that the speakers cost $7,500 each when listening to Helene Fischer or Rammstein.
KingSong16 Sep 2017 15:50
Uh yes, I hear that... After all, it’s my job!