ᐅ House and Floor Plan Design – Initial Architect’s Draft Available
Created on: 14 Oct 2020 18:29
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Pinkiponk
As previously announced, our old house in Baden-Württemberg has now been sold, we have moved to the Leipzig district, and we can now focus on our new house. Due to our age, we have deliberately downsized both the lot size and the living space. We have a first architect’s draft. I have already noted a few change requests and am now looking forward to your additions, criticism, and suggestions. If further plans or similar are needed, I will gladly provide them as long as I have them available.
Thank you in advance for taking the time to help me.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Lot size: 567sqm (6,105 sqft)
Slope: visually not noticeable; if this is important information, I will look for where to find it
Site occupancy index: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: see attached drawing
Edge development: not allowed/desired on our part
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: classic, conservative
Orientation: ?
Maximum heights/limits: “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to ridge height of main roof max. 11.5 meters (38 feet)”; “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to eave height of main roof max. 7.0 meters (23 feet)”
Further requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: we are trying to approximate the house shown in the photo below; however, without the gable projection; classic/conservative, hipped roof, town house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: 1 male, 64 years old – 1 female, 58 years old
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor → kitchen, shower bathroom, living/lounge room, utility room with kitchenette and floor drain, hallway;
Upper floor → bathroom with tub, bedroom, 2 “wardrobe and storage rooms”
Office: family use or home office? Couple without children, no home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 10
Open or closed architecture: open on the outside, closed on the inside
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, cooking island: no, classical L-shaped kitchen or similar (the plan includes a cooking island that will not be built)
Number of dining seats: 2 in the kitchen, up to 6–8 in the living/lounge room
Fireplace: gas stove chimney
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: both no
Garage, carport: 2 arched carports
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: both no
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be
House Design
Who created the plan:
– Planner from a construction company: yes, in cooperation with the clients
– Architect: unclear
– Do-it-yourself: yes, in cooperation with the prefabricated house manufacturer’s planner
What do you especially like? Why? Many windows and patio doors, lots of natural light and fresh air
What do you not like? Why? The windows on the upper floor are too low in the plan, but this will be changed
Price estimate according to architect/planner: already commissioned offer/order €312,780.00 (without carport, outdoor facilities, additional construction costs, land, ...)
Personal price limit for the house including equipment: €400,000.00
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler plus solar thermal (according to legal requirements)
If you have to forgo something, which details/upgrades
– What you can give up: we are already giving up shutters, whirlpool
– What you cannot give up: many windows and patio doors, muntins in the windows and doors
Why is the design as it is? For example:
A mixture of many examples from various magazines…
What do you think makes it good or bad? It generally meets our wishes. On the ground floor, we want access to the garden from every room. We find symmetry more pleasing than asymmetry. Few different window and door formats. No horizontal (“lying”) windows. Each of us has a separate room for clothing and such, so that no wardrobes have to be placed in the bedroom. We do not want a separate dressing room.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The roof seems somewhat steep to me. Is a 30-degree roof pitch for a house with a base of 9.40m x 9.40m (31 feet x 31 feet) too steep? The standard according to the provider is 22 degrees. That seemed too flat, or you can hardly see the roof.
The development plan was too large to upload; I will try again in a separate post in this thread.
Thank you in advance for taking the time to help me.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Lot size: 567sqm (6,105 sqft)
Slope: visually not noticeable; if this is important information, I will look for where to find it
Site occupancy index: 0.35
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: see attached drawing
Edge development: not allowed/desired on our part
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: classic, conservative
Orientation: ?
Maximum heights/limits: “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to ridge height of main roof max. 11.5 meters (38 feet)”; “Top of raw floor slab of ground floor to eave height of main roof max. 7.0 meters (23 feet)”
Further requirements
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: we are trying to approximate the house shown in the photo below; however, without the gable projection; classic/conservative, hipped roof, town house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: 1 male, 64 years old – 1 female, 58 years old
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor:
Ground floor → kitchen, shower bathroom, living/lounge room, utility room with kitchenette and floor drain, hallway;
Upper floor → bathroom with tub, bedroom, 2 “wardrobe and storage rooms”
Office: family use or home office? Couple without children, no home office
Number of overnight guests per year: 10
Open or closed architecture: open on the outside, closed on the inside
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, cooking island: no, classical L-shaped kitchen or similar (the plan includes a cooking island that will not be built)
Number of dining seats: 2 in the kitchen, up to 6–8 in the living/lounge room
Fireplace: gas stove chimney
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: both no
Garage, carport: 2 arched carports
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: both no
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why some things should or should not be
House Design
Who created the plan:
– Planner from a construction company: yes, in cooperation with the clients
– Architect: unclear
– Do-it-yourself: yes, in cooperation with the prefabricated house manufacturer’s planner
What do you especially like? Why? Many windows and patio doors, lots of natural light and fresh air
What do you not like? Why? The windows on the upper floor are too low in the plan, but this will be changed
Price estimate according to architect/planner: already commissioned offer/order €312,780.00 (without carport, outdoor facilities, additional construction costs, land, ...)
Personal price limit for the house including equipment: €400,000.00
Preferred heating system: gas condensing boiler plus solar thermal (according to legal requirements)
If you have to forgo something, which details/upgrades
– What you can give up: we are already giving up shutters, whirlpool
– What you cannot give up: many windows and patio doors, muntins in the windows and doors
Why is the design as it is? For example:
A mixture of many examples from various magazines…
What do you think makes it good or bad? It generally meets our wishes. On the ground floor, we want access to the garden from every room. We find symmetry more pleasing than asymmetry. Few different window and door formats. No horizontal (“lying”) windows. Each of us has a separate room for clothing and such, so that no wardrobes have to be placed in the bedroom. We do not want a separate dressing room.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
The roof seems somewhat steep to me. Is a 30-degree roof pitch for a house with a base of 9.40m x 9.40m (31 feet x 31 feet) too steep? The standard according to the provider is 22 degrees. That seemed too flat, or you can hardly see the roof.
The development plan was too large to upload; I will try again in a separate post in this thread.
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motorradsilke13 Apr 2022 08:18Pinkiponk schrieb:
I’ll be at the construction site again this weekend, and then I’ll take detailed photos.
I agree with you and welcome any suggestions for solutions. For some things, I need to see them first because I lack the imagination. Also, I partly relied on my husband and the sample coordinator. I kept talking about wanting to have access to the garden from every door on the ground floor and possibly having a wraparound terrace. Maybe I should talk more. ;-)Couldn’t you simply raise the terrace a bit so that it matches the height of the window thresholds?
Pinkiponk schrieb:
I am probably two to three times older than you (but not as old as a tortoise yet ;-) ) and therefore had a lot, really a lot, of time to practice. ;-) Still, I appreciate your words, even if it's hard for me to accept them. Not quite, I have also had two-thirds of your lifetime credited to my own account. There isn’t much to practice; you either are the way you are, or you are not, I would say.
Pinkiponk schrieb:
That’s a pity, I am interested in your project and surely many others here are as well. I dare to doubt that, but I will definitely ask about some things over time and thus gradually reveal more of it here. Just don’t stumble over my sometimes changing usernames 😉.
Pinkiponk schrieb:
Then you made absolutely the right decision, and I am happy for you. You might consider sharing a tiny detail as an experiment—something that could never upset you. For example, how or where you will store your trash bins. ;-) I’m sure there is something we can find, since a few unimportant but necessary things will unfortunately still have to be decided :-)
Pinkiponk schrieb:
Thanks again, I’m looking forward to it. With pleasure…
Pinkiponk schrieb:
All the best to you as well, and for your project too. I always enjoy reading your posts. Thank you! Glad to hear that…
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Pinkiponk13 Apr 2022 08:32motorradsilke schrieb:
Couldn’t you just raise the terrace a bit so that it matches the height of the window sills?If that’s possible, we will do it. I’m considering whether to remove the window sills before applying the exterior plaster and then find another solution. As I mentioned, I will start a new thread with detailed photos about this. If the terrace can simply be raised, that would be my preferred option. 🙂
Good that someone brought this post back up.
For such specific questions like the windows, the green one is recommended.
Do you want low-profile thresholds? I would not raise the terrace higher than the finished floor level inside the house.
The detailing of the waterproofing here is very important.
For such specific questions like the windows, the green one is recommended.
Do you want low-profile thresholds? I would not raise the terrace higher than the finished floor level inside the house.
The detailing of the waterproofing here is very important.
Pinkiponk schrieb:
I kept saying that I want to be able to go into the garden from every door on the ground floor and maybe create a continuous terrace. Maybe you look too young, and none of the planners considered that you specifically want a low-threshold exit (otherwise they would have asked which of the patio doors should be the exit). Wanting to quickly step outside doesn’t automatically mean it has to be a threshold-free exit. I also prefer no threshold when carrying a tray or laundry basket, but otherwise I don’t mind lifting my feet. From a construction perspective (water ingress during heavy rain) the classic window frame solution is usually the obvious choice.
gutentag schrieb:
Do you want low thresholds? I wouldn’t set the terrace higher than the finished floor level inside the house. Ideally, they should be level with each other. The “water channel” (Bircorinne) between them is important. And/or you could make the terrace with a slatted floor like in a livestock stable ;-)
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11ant schrieb:
And/or you make a slatted floor on the terrace like in a cattle shed ;-) That made me laugh. I almost fell off my chair. We have something like a slatted floor – well, one where you can’t really see anything, and it used to be a cowshed.
@Pinkiponk As is often the case, if nothing else is specified, the standard applies, which includes a threshold. Since you had to choose materials quite cost-consciously, it was probably clear to the seller what it would be, and it wouldn’t matter much to a man. I wonder if it’s still that easy to change your order? By the way, I also have window sills at the threshold-free door.
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